Ascension and earth change

It seems plausible to me that when gaia fully ascend into fifth dimension there would be natural catastrophes occurring across the planet to symbolize the completion of her ascension or her rebirth. This could be the result of a sudden tremendous upliftment of energy on the planet in the moments of gaia's full glorious rebirth on the higher plane. Maybe some more evolved souls could ride this great release of energy to fully activate their kundalini and ascend along with the mother. It's interesting some people have been talking about the earth pole shift. They say that the inner core of the earth has been shifting, upon its completion in 2012, the outer crust of the earth will turn 180 degrees (symbolic of the gaia's rebirth), and because of this there will be a couple days of darkness. It would be like the darkest night just before the dawn (before gaia's enlightenment), one may be able to take great advantage of this powerful transformative energy during this time if one can fully embrace this darkness together with the mother. It's also been said the last ice age was a direct result of the pole shift, which resulted in the early civilizations being wiped out. There's no reason to think the same magnitude of earth change will not happen this time.

I find this perspective looking the earth ascension really interesting though it does sound a bit far fetched, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.

Love,

Lei

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Hi Lei,

Actually I see the Ascension of Gaia in an entirely different way. She's a light being many billions of years old and highly evolved. Her consciousness moves fairly gently in comparison to us. Also remember that her entire consciousness itself is not shifting, only her CENTRE OF CONSCIOUSNESS is. And she's already been completing this final process for quite some years. So actually, her Ascension will be fairly gentle. I'm reminded of a great quote from "Autobiography of a Yogi" which I felt to adapt slightly...

    "In the minds of shallow beings, the fish of small movement cause great commotion. But in the minds of oceanic beings, the whales of revelation cause barely a ripple."

So there will be no pole shifts (other than what is happening gently anyway) and no earth surface detachment. Neither will there be days of complete darkness. However there will be other complications for other yet connected reasons.

I get the real sense that Gaia is moving into the culmination of several important climate tipping points that will bring her to a higher overall temperature of at least six centigrade across the planet. To me, this has already begun. It's part of the planetary 'solution' that humanity has initiated by our destructive presence (although not really our fault).

This is likely to intensify all manner of freak weather from Tornados to Tsunamis, earthquakes and volcanic action. Then there will likely be other man-made distraction to try to take the blame away from the human cause of climate change - so that we feel okay to carry on consuming despite the obvious evidence. We might add to this resource and energy wars that could further exacerbate the situation. So quite a potent mix really!

And through it all, the mirror will get stronger and clearer. I believe this is a part of the design to bring more people to their senses and thereby to embark on their own journey of Ascension.

I wonder what your thought is on the oil spill in the gulf of mexico. How does the event fits into the large picture?

Things like tsunamis and earthquakes have to do with the conditions beneath the surface of the earth, I find it hard to understand how global warming can directly cause them. For example, how the human activities could be directly linked to the tsunami in Southeast Asia many years ago? Do you feel there was an important message in the event? I do see their symbolic significance though. I still remember a couple of years ago when we had a major earthquake in China, destroyed a entire town and killed probably over a hundred thousand people. It happened few months before the summer olympics in Beijing, the whole Chinese nation went extremely nationalistic because of the anti-China demonstrations (caused by a Tibet riot occurred during that time) occurring across major cities in the world where the olympic torches were being passed. Then the quake happened. I felt very strongly the two events were significantly linked. The Chinese were feeling very victimized because of the Western media's misreporting on the Tibetan riot and all anti-China demonstrations at a time they thought was crucial for the country. Interestedly, after the earthquake the world suddenly became very sympathetic and with few demonstrations occurring after that.

It's part of the planetary 'solution' that humanity has initiated by our destructive presence (although not really our fault).

I'm not sure if I understand what you mean here. Did you mean we've been duped to act in this way? and mother earth has to cleanse the infestations regardless?

Lei

Hi Lei,

Yes these are really interesting questions about how Gaia moves and shapes, and what her overall purpose is.

It would be so easy to consider Gaia either as a very automated self regulating process, or else something that is generally awake but with no specific, individual and intelligent consciousness.

It's clear we're very conditioned to think and feel this way even when we do wake up. But the more I've watched and felt the intelligence of Gaia, the more I am truly astounded by her. She is absolutely benevolent, to all her life forms. She is like the gentle nurturing mother, looking after all her children. She can speak words of comfort right to the mind and heart of an individual person, yet she can guide an entire sentient species with one movement.

She is totally tuned into the benevolent co-creative process of higher consciousness where our own higher selves reside. To truly feel, understand and intuit this, we have to learn to look at ALL events on the world stage beyond their surface meaning, and into their deeper meaning.

If we do this, then a powerful story begins to unfold. We see how we are being spoken to through every event. Take for example the Volcano in Iceland. Now Iceland was one of the countries biggest hit by the credit crunch. They were bailed out by the International Monetary Fund (IMF) which will put them in debt for decades to come. And what happened next? The volcano irrupts and then grounds all air traffic across Europe. It's as if benevolence was saying... "the solution is to end globalised industrial consumerism".

The same thing happened around the eathquake in Haiti. Did you know, that only thirty years ago, Haiti was self-sufficient in its staple diet of rice? That was until in the mid-90s, the IMF forced it to allow cheaper imports, the US then dumped its subsidised surplus on the country putting local farmers immediately out of business. When the earthquake struck, it was the countries lack of resilience through dependence on globalised industrial agriculture that did the real damage.

And take the Gulf Oil Leak. There was a huge global outcry, which dragged on and on - every time a solution seemed in sight, it failed, which heightened the tension ever more. Tremendous blame was poured on the oil company BP. Yet what an incredible mirror the leak was offering humanity... "do you want to stop this destruction right now? because this leak into the ocean is just a drop in the ocean compared to the global destruction that's happening on a daily basis. So do you really want to stop it? It's simple really: use the car less, fly less, buy oil based products less. Oil is only drilled at the rate it is through people's consumption of it." So we may have stopped the Gulf Oil Leak, but we haven't addressed the real message of the incident - although I do believe some people are beginning to see it, even if the general consciousness does not.

It's like when the Titanic hit the Iceberg all those years ago. The Titanic was supposedly a symbol of man's greatness - how we could master the elements and the waves. Yet it was our arrogance and ignorance that caused the disaster and this to me was a powerful prophecy for what the industrial revolution would eventually do.

So do these events happen by chance? Judge for yourself, but to me, the more I look at the deeper meaning of such global events, the more I see the interweaving higher story and invitation to align with Gaia once more. And it's not just Gaia, it's a co-creative higher process using all the intricate facets of Gaia and our solar and galactic systems - for we are all a part of those.

The message is getting stronger and stronger. Increasingly, it will become one which none of us can avoid. We can always deny its presence, but we won't be able to avoid its consequence. This to me, is benevolent and positive: it simply doesn't serve who we are to be out of alignment with the benevolent organising energy of the universe.

That's truly fascinating! here are few other things I'd like to get your thoughts on.

What is the symbolic message of the AIDS epidemic that has been spreading across the globe?

I've also been wondering how interesting it is that the biggest oil reserves in the world are in the middle east, especially considering the traditional rivalry between the Christianity and Islam religions. Why did these Muslim countries happen to be holding the most essential resources the industrialized world desperately need?

Moreover, what does the extreme poverty in much of the Africa mean to us? What is the solution to it?

Thanks,

Lei

I was quite flabbergasted when I learnt the following about Haitian history:

The French colonial rulers there were the most violent slave-drivers in the New World. - Whereas an African slave who was deported to America had an average life expectancy of thirty years, a slave who had the misfortune of being brought to Haiti had an average life expectancy of only two years.

And the slaves, in turn, brought Voodoo, a healing method which originated in sub-Saharan Africa, to Haiti and misused it to harm and kill their enemies, in particular the infamous slave-drivers.

In this context, I couldn't help but think of the earthquake as an attempt by Gaia to shake off all the blood that was shed and all the atrocities that were committed in that part of the world.

I felt like saying a couple of things about the last post:

1. I always try to be careful about it.

There is a tendency to relate to the forces in our world as if they were human and feel and behave like human (I meen human in the usual meaning, an average man from the street).

I don't think Gaia sees blood the way let's call him "Mr. Anybody" might see, i.e. judging, disgusted, etc.

I assume there are laws and forces I still might not understand. Why is there so much blood in the wild too? Blood itself doesn't mean anything. Species kill species to keep the general balance, and I don't think this is the problem.

I also don't feel that Gaia needs an earthquake to shake anything off, as maybe we might want to wash something we are disgusted by as soon as possible.

Let's just assume, that there were dinosaurs here, and that not always human were populating the Earth. Why ice-age then? To teach the dinosaurs something? To shake off the blood they spilled? I don't think so.

It's just time were changing, the state was changing, so externally it took form of "all dinosaurs are suddenly not there anymore".

Now also, the times are changing, it's accompanied by all kinds of processes, internal and external.

This is the only external reason I allow myself to consider. Not everything maybe has to do with us, people. We, in our egocentrism, all the time want to think that we are either the reason or the goal of something to happen in the world. Maybe it's more about attaining the new balance of the system, regardless of people.

How about the option - things are just happening? "The sun today is shining", because the birds might need it for something today? There are more creations in the world but us, hard as it might be to beleive :)

2. The other option, which I think the one that really can change and contribute anything - is seeing it as a hint, if it touches any string in my being. What does it have to say about me? What does it teach me? How does it show me who I am? or where to go now? etc...Anyway, I try to look what it has to do with ME and my process. Even if the message is collective, still I can do only my part.

I really don't beleive it's about blaming others in what's going on - be it slaves in Haiti responsible for earthquake, or my neighbor responsible for the noise in the building I live in.

If I'm wrong anyhow, please correct me.

In Israel many people see something terrible in Holocaust, make a reminder day, to remember it happened, play sad music. Each year I ask myself why are they doing it? What for? To pity themselves? Like "A Pity Day". Or is it a "Blame Day"? Maybe "Remember Not To Do It Again Day"?...

Even though I can only imagine, how horrible it was to those who were directly involved, both the victims and the executors, but I also see some kind of huge process - a huge mass of matter was shifted somewhere and diluted. It is what I see if I ignore the emotions arising from judging or feeling empathic.

Note: Why is it always the victims are good guys and the executors are bad guys? They were all punished retroactively for the "crimes" they comitted in a "society" or call it a "tribe", where it considered to be normal to behave like that. Imagine that - anybody could be like them in given parameters and cirumstances, I could be them. MAybe we should put cannibals from far far away lands to trial for killing and eating people?

Why am I saying all this? Because I think it can be helpful to look at the events after taking some distance from them. Then judgment can disapear, emotions, that blur the picture, step aside. This is when we might see something we can't understand while being so identified with situation, experience, information.

There are many small and big processes happening every second in the world, including all levels of the creation - from the smallest level (reactions, transformations), to living organisms. We are living in this world as a part of it. And all that is happening is affected by all the forms.

The question is what is my part?
How do I become sensitive to all the changes and currents of the universe to colaborate with it?
How can I live aware, and not be draged and moved "randomly", without knowing what's going on and why?
How can I see the reality as it is and not as I was erroneously taught to?
And finally, how do I find a way to find peace and love in myself, and not blame, judgement and need?

This requires focus and attention: When am I being manipulated to feel or think something? Am I sure it is real? Am I sure this is the way things are, and not distorted by me? Where are these feelings/thoughts coming from? What do they show me? etc etc

A question for thought: thay say, that Rabbi Akiva was killed in torments. I citate from wiki:

".. Full of devotion, Akiba recited his prayers calmly, though suffering agonies; and when Rufus asked him whether he was a sorcerer, since he felt no pain, Akiba replied, "I am no sorcerer; but I rejoice at the opportunity now given to me to love my God 'with all my life,' seeing that I have hitherto been able to love Him only 'with all my means' and 'with all my might,'" and with the word "One!" he expired.."

Other example - in the movie "The thin red line", the question how can one see God in most horrible circumstances?

It's not hard to accept "God" when everything is beautiful and peaceful, nice and pleasant. How about accepting him in any of "it's" forms? Like Holocaust? Really accepting - blissfully?

Hi Yulia,

I agree with you when you say...

    "There is a tendency to relate to the forces in our world as if they were human and feel and behave like human (I meen human in the usual meaning, an average man from the street). I don't think Gaia sees blood the way let's call him "Mr. Anybody" might see, i.e. judging, disgusted, etc."

There certainly feels like there is no blame - Gaia is far too evolved for that. Yet what we have to understand is that we live in a group consensus consciousness that essentially sees and experiences everything as separate, that mostly things seem to happen by chance. Even when we wake up and tune into Unity Consciousness, synchronicity still tends to be quite spasmodic, it's not a continuous flow until we're well down the path.

Yet the higher consciousness to which we belong, has the most unbelievable organising capacity. It's very nature is higher harmony through highly organised co-creativity. So things happen and fit. The Law of Attraction dictates what happens. If an energy is disharmonious, it brings to it immediately a mirror inviting greater harmony. It's a natural scientific effect of consciousness because Separation Consciousness and Unity Consciousness are together interwoven through the universe.

The greater the degree of Separation, the greater the potential energy 'wanting' to pull back to higher Unity. This energy has incredible organising power. It can shape the subtlest synchronicity or it can literally move mountains. So humanity is mostly out of alignment. And society is certainly destroying our natural eco-systems. We're building enormous potential energy (neg-entropy) pulling at the very fabric of this consciousness.

So yes, no one is saying "they did this so we're going to teach them a lesson". But the more we pull against the natural flow, the more we're going to see powerful messages inviting us to realign. And at the end of the day, the only real possibility is realignment because that's how Gaia and our planetary system is naturally evolving. I guess some could detach - head off into space for example - but that's not really moving forwards - only sideways!

Human collective consciousness surely affects the system, just like I generally said:
"We are living in this world as a part of it. And all that is happening is affected by all the forms."

I still don't get it why it is prefered to explain everything through human and only human influence. Did earthquakes never happen on earth before human populated it? or tectonic movements...Volcanic erruptions? Earth geological history began millions of years before we arrived...

I agree, that everything is about balance, when one equillibrium is broken, the system does everything to bring itself to a new equillibrium.

A new one, i.e., like I said, ".. the times are changing, it's accompanied by all kinds of processes, internal and external..". What was "right" yesterday is "wrong" today.

I still don't get it, why the separation process and all other processes accompanying it in order to bring the overall system, the new one, to a balanced and more harmoneous state, are spoken of as if they are negative.

Like "So humanity is mostly out of alignment. And society is certainly destroying our natural eco-systems. We're building enormous potential energy (neg-entropy) pulling at the very fabric of this consciousness. "

Yes, the humanity now is in a very "excited" state, out of balance. But I beleive we are one of those "molecules" who bring enough excitation energy, which is felt as dishamony and misalignment, to take the whole system through a barrier to a new state. So yes, we do build the potential energy pulling things.. exactly where they need to be pulled.

You yourself said that everything is shifting. Wasn't separation a spontaneous expansion from the Source process? Are we not just a tiny part of the whole huge system? Are we not just separated exactly the way we need to make this machine move, or more correct to say, the machine brings itself to this state in order to move.

" And society is certainly destroying our natural eco-systems." - This sentence is exactly what I don't understand. Who then is the one to put the blame on for ice-age? It totally destroyed our eco-system, didn't it? And please, don't tell me it's the jews who are guilty in everything :D

For me the only question is am I aware of this process and what part I take in it? Am I ready to this shift? What is my 'job'?

Why so many become awake now? I don't beleive it's random, why not even 20 years ago? It's the beginning of the transition for humans, this age IS going to its end, so here everything is beginning to shift, including some of us.

But I can't see how all these people around me who don't feel anything, and just keep with what they do, how could they possibly even think about anything else? It's chinese for them. All these words... They can't read these signs you're talking about.

You were 'blessed' to become one who was 'touched' by God that day, was it your choice then? Or did it just hit you "on the head", like Newton's apple? :)

They simply do their job. That's all. This is how I see it.

Now if someone strongly feels that anything happening is a message to stop driving, flying, etc, or anything else, then it IS a message for HIM. But for him only,I beleive. For anybody else it is just an earthquake.

It doesn't mean, that if I feel I want to share my experience, I must not. All those who can resonate with this interpretation will understand the language, but it doesn't make it collective truth. There are too many species within human race to share the same truth.
Each has its own part to play in the general process. And each will shift or disapear when his part is done.

Anyway, I personally see in these events signs of movement, transition, changes; and the only interpretation I find constructive is doing my part the best way I can :)

P.s.: maybe we are saying the same, but I'm very petty to words, a perfectionist nagger; I can't allow things that are not as objectively and as clearly said as possible.

If it is so, please clarify:

*Is your view of what's happening around now negative, or is it just words inaccuracy?

*Do you feel that the process should be forced forward the sooner the better, or you see the spontaneous development, with clear breakthroughs?

*Do you think other people should be coerced to change their behavior, or is it a natural process that will happen anyway when the time is right?

*After all ,isn't what I have to do is MY job, and not see where someone else doesn't do his properly?

Get a cover, you're under gunfire chain!! :D

With very much love,
Yulia

Hey Yulia,

You said...

    "I still don't get it, why the separation process and all other processes accompanying it in order to bring the overall system, the new one, to a balanced and more harmoneous state, are spoken of as if they are negative."

I'm not speaking of the separation process as negative. I see my own body as a part of the separation process, and I'm continually working to find ever higher equilibrium between my own body and my soul. To me, this will ultimately lead to nirvana.

What I see is an Opposing Consciousness working to disrupt that equilibrium. Now here's an interesting point... I've learned as much from Opposing Consciousness as from Benevolent! If you're working to stand on a surf board and someone keeps rocking the board knocking you off, then assuming you don't give up, you become a very good surfer!

But surely you can see and feel the injustice of what's happening all around us now? Yes we could drop into the place of the absolute where everything is perfect and meditate on a rock and say it's all okay. But what really stirs the blood? What really gets us up in the morning?

Yes the Ice Age destroyed eco-systems, but do you really see that process as similar to what's going on all around us now?

I believe - I know - all sentient life is being invited to nirvana - balanced equilibrium between separation and unity consciousness within. But that must be equilibrium with EVERY aspect of the soul - the warrior part too.

What does your warrior say when it arises? Does it like what's happening all around us? Does it really think it's just okay as it is? Does it see injustice and inequity? Does it see destruction? You don't have to judge, but what do you really see and how does it make you feel? What is your story?

And to your questions...

    "Do you feel that the process should be forced forward the sooner the better, or you see the spontaneous development, with clear breakthroughs?"

No force is necessary. It's lack of force that is causing the system to topple itself. Just like Aikido: let your opponent push against you as hard as they can and then simply move out of the way whilst they fall over.

    "Do you think other people should be coerced to change their behavior, or is it a natural process that will happen anyway when the time is right?"

Absolutely not! I only have energy for those who want to change. Everyone has free will. I have witnessed souls who do not progress, choosing their own re-integration with the source. I believe this too is a natural process.

    "After all ,isn't what I have to do is MY job, and not see where someone else doesn't do his properly?

And what is your job? Do you know it fully yet? I observe that when we fully self realise - in other words - when our soul truly realises the self, then initially it seems like there is nothing else to do. It's from this place that something else arises... true compassion. Compassion to help those souls who have not yet made that breakthrough.

First of all thank you for the explanation, it's just something that I feel not agreeing with, so I have to stir it up...

I agree with all the FACTS you are describing. Yes, we are now in an unbalanced state. Yes, many parts of the overall system are still lagging behind, and therefore are in a misalignment to a new state coming. Yes, there is a friction force, retarding the other part from going forward (opposing consciousness), which I think plays a great role in this process.

You say I've learned as much from Opposing Consciousness as from Benevolent! If you're working to stand on a surf board and someone keeps rocking the board knocking you off, then assuming you don't give up, you become a very good surfer!, I like it :) I think it has a very great balancing power, this retarding, inhibiting force doesn't let the system to go through this process too fast and turbulently.

In individual process it protects from jumping too fast to the extreme opposite pole, while the body and nervous sytem are not ready enough, allows a more gentle transition, and again a choice making. If it was not here, it would be too 'simple', one would just flow without any contribution of his own to a higher state. I beleive this opposition allows one to make this choice all the time, it a more accented manner. It is like an exercise, that gets harder each time you learn more, or a weght that becomes more and more heavy, as your muscles get stronger, and you can lift more now. It sharpens the focus, the attention, makes one alert and attentive to his state.

This is what I see.

I'll answer your questions, since it's important for me to make it clear, that I'm not pushing here the idea of sitting in an artificial, ignorant and indifferent place, pretending everything is cool...

So..

But surely you can see and feel the injustice of what's happening all around us now? - You call it 'injustice', I call it an opposite potential, I just feel this is not my place anymore. It is not the direction I want to go in. It will not bring me to a more balances and harmoneous state, where I'll feel 'home'.

In simple words, I know I can't resonate with this anymore. I'm shifted someplace else. Just as I know I won't be a bodybuilder, it's just not aligned with what I feel I am, and with my 'job', even if I still don't know for sure what it is, but I know what it is not.

You ask But what really stirs the blood? What really gets us up in the morning?. What stirs my blood is "hearing the voice". I know when I'm lagging behind my positive potential, or falling to my negative potential, a past state, wich no longer suits my present configuration.
I feel the disbalance, I know there is something else, another way, so I'm ready to follow it, and I try to do my best, and aware of places where I allow myself to 'roll down'.

When I see all these events around, I can clearly see the movement, the excitation of the system, which is going somewhere, moving to some place, and I know I can follow. And if I don't, then delta will grow and I'll feel it as a mismatch, disconnection (accompanied by resistance, suffering, etc). After you described it, I understood what I felt, the delta between my potential and my present state.

What does your warrior say when it arises? Does it like what's happening all around us? Does it really think it's just okay as it is? Does it see injustice and inequity? Does it see destruction? You don't have to judge, but what do you really see and how does it make you feel? What is your story?

My warrior doesn't like or unlike anything, it doesn't work this way. It measures where I am and where I'm to be soon, and it makes sure I'll get there. My warrior is ready to do whatever is necessary, my warrior is a warrior with the "injustice ..inequity..destruction" within myself, the outer world is showing me those within myself, otherwise I couldn't possibly identify with them.

My warrior is standing on his guard to protect me and pull me back from all those places I fall to because of my ignorance and laziness. He gets me up to my feet when I fall face down to dirt. He is pushing me forwards when I'm scared, and makes sure I'll listen and see even when I try to deny..

He doesn't fight with all the windmills, running away from his real duty and responsibility - to make me look inside myself, instead of looking around and judging everything and everybody. And he is the one who dares despite my arrogance, fear and emotions, to look at the world around with as open eyes as they can be in a given moment, and see behind all the external circus deep and grand processes.

He is the one who makes me write now, actually. He wants to find his truth.

My story.. is to to follow the voice I hear since I'm 14. This voice is telling me that this life, this attitude, these values are not good for me. They literally kill me.They almost did. This voice is calling me somewhere else. It brought me here, it made me who I am today. It's calling me when I get lost. It's telling me where to go next, patiently and persistently, no matter how long and hard I resist. My story is to reach my highest potential, and help others do the same. In my story I'm ready to accept the most horrible situations and events, if that's what's necessary to pass to the 'other side'.

And what is your job? Do you know it fully yet? I observe that when we fully self realise - in other words - when our soul truly realises the self, then initially it seems like there is nothing else to do. It's from this place that something else arises... true compassion. Compassion to help those souls who have not yet made that breakthrough.

But how can compasion go along with judgement? Aren't these too contradict each other?

Compasion and empathy I do have. You are right. As a part of my process, as I discover another way of living, feeling, sure I want everybody to be happy and peaceful, and to taste this bliss.

Sure, when I see suffering, pain, desperation, I feel sorry it has to be this way now. Not because the pain is there, but because I see why it happens to people. Of course, I'm sad when I clearly see how somebody is resisting and smashing himself, torturing himself because of his own ignorance and unwilling to see and feel the truth speaking in himself.

And also I'm sure, that this voice leading me will show me the best way to help them. When they are ready. When their time comes.

I already see it. Without talking. I came to my new room in university. It was all cluttered and dusty. I made my table clear, clean, and arranged in a very cosy and warm manner. Two days after I saw, that three other tables were clean and arranged. These are those people who could feel the difference between the denseness of their surrounding and the lighness of mine. They simply followed. All the others couldn't even feel the difference, no delta potential was created, therefore they stayed the same.

The same is about the whole process. I do beleive that a pull to help, to throw a rope to others who will feel the pull to follow, this delta, is part of the evolution.

You can't just sit, all concentrated on yourself and your own happiness. And please, don't interrupt me...You want good for all. You open to the world.

I have my part in this process, this system. I want to cooperate, to serve best, and do what is needed. I do discover the new potential, where it is going, and I do wish that everybody will pass safely there, and I do want to help all those who CAN and CHOOSE to. I feel empathy and compassion, but not blame and judgement. I feel their loneliness, their pain, their sense of being lost, their fear to get out of comfort zone, their dependence on the present mechanisms, present structure...I can't judge them, sorry. I can only do whatever I can to help them.

But judgment? Or calling it names such as 'injust', irresponsible, destructive, abusing.. I see these people evryday, I don't see how it's up to them. They are asleep. That's all. Although I do beleive that there are people who are awake, but still deny and run away from their responsibility. But it is their choice, and it should make me ask myself this question: "Where do I run away from my responsibility?". Not more.

My job tomorrow is not known to me, but my job in the next moment will reveal itself, and I'll do my best to see it and do it. And I'm really trying to stay out of the way, when I do it :) It comes out so much better !! Even singing in a bathroom is much better when I stop forcing, manipulating and resisting :D

In conclusion: I do see what's going on, my my interpretation is different - I don't judge or call it judgemental negatively colored names. I see in it a symbol of changes, at the moment something old is being destructed, to build something new. It is destructed, nobody destructs it. And we are ecoing each other. I too destruct myself now (nobody else does), I too have all earthquakes, volcano activating, tsunami, and whatever you want in me now.

How did it look in my husband's eyes when I was screaming out of pain and scratching my arms and face after the dinner with his family? Were they cruel torturers that destroyed me in my beauty, peace and harmony? Or did I find something in myself that made me want to get out of my skin? I had to deal with it, this earthquake, I made it happen to me. I didn't deny it, I let it torn me to peices, and after that I could find myself in a new state..new balance. I was free.

Hi Yulia,

As I see, my one remark has started a heated discussion.

Note, however, that I said: "I could not help but think of the earthquake ..." What I meant by that is that knowing about Haiti's past, it occurred to me that there might me some connection between the two. I did not say it was the absolute truth, I did not say there weren't other factors involved, I did not say that it was the fault of the people involved, but for me personally, that knowledge seemed to put things in a different perspective.

It is interesting that you mentioned people in Israel commemorating the Holocaust to a degree that you cannot relate to. I see exactly the same thing happening in reverse with our Nazi past or our role as 'perpetrators'. This is another ‘hot potato‘ so I feel inhibited to even talk about it, but I feel that this part of our history is being kept alive to an unhealthy degree, making sure we shall continue to feel guilty for many generations to come. (Doesn’t the Bible talk about seven generations?)

One sign of hope was the World Cup a few years ago when for the first time, it seems to me, Germany managed to project quite a different image out into the world. The motto was "Being among Friends" (if I remember correctly), the whole country was seized by a wave of euphoria, people from other countries who visited Germany on this occasion generally felt very welcomed here (Döner Kebap turning out to be the most popular ‘German‘ fast food by far) and you would see German flags everywhere – in my youth, especially the latter would have been completely unthinkable.

Being a German was something you were likely to hide rather than show to the world (safer to consider yourself European). So hopefully, from the second post-Holocaust generation on, we will gradually manage to step out of the perpetrator /victim dynamic. At least, I very much hope so.

Ahhh, hullo! you from the other side! Isn't that ironic?

Victim to perpetrator, victim to perpetrator, over.. :D

"Döner Kebap turning out to be the most popular ‘German‘ fast food by far". - I almost fell from the chair laughing..

Hmm, I think guilt is even a tougher thing to deal with than being a victim. Not that we are competing here...

Anyway, I think it's beatiful this twist here. Isn't it kind of symbolic? To rise above all these conditionings and to speak from this place?

Look, you and I don't speak like perpetrator with victim. So I guess it will be faster than 7 generations..

I don't know why, but when I read your response, after I stoped laughing I feel now so peaceful, blessed and kind of 'inlove'...

Hey Chris, you have an historical moment here!!
People make peace and unite via your site :)

Ah, about the discussion:

You just pushed the button, you know, it's not the first time I'm annoying 'everybody here' about this subject :)

This is the only place I feel not resonating with the message.. And it's ok, it doesn't have to be 100% fitting. After all, we are all differrent and feel things differently..

What an interesting movement - even doner kebabs have something to answer for :smile:

So what's going on here right now? My attention was drawn to this Yulia...

    "In conclusion: I do see what's going on, my my interpretation is different - I don't judge or call it judgemental negatively colored names. I see in it a symbol of changes, at the moment something old is being destructed, to build something new. It is destructed, nobody destructs it. And we are ecoing each other. I too destruct myself now (nobody else does), I too have all earthquakes, volcano activating, tsunami, and whatever you want in me now."

I sense the underlying question is all about absolute and relative truths - finding the balance between the two.

Who do you think is being judgmental? And are you loosing your discernment with the judgment?

I had to interrupt my exchange with you to deal with someone who is suffering greatly. I feel their pain at the hands of the matrix and the unbalancing energy. I witness my children being conditioned and abused (there's simply no other word for it) by society. I see the potential that they may be lost. Am I attached? No. Does I care about it? Yes deeply. Is it an illusion? Yes. Does it feel real? Yes. And I wouldn't have it any other way.

At heart I'm a warrior. I'm totally non attached, but, at the same time, I'm fervently and passionately engaged with the drama. It's my living breathing purpose to deconstruct what's going on, BUT through non-attached beingness.

I play the game, a battle which I see taking place all around us... in the supermarket, the churches, temples and synogogues, in the schools, on TV the internet and cinemas, in the shopping malls and yes, in the fast food restaurants. Our lives are awash with it. It's real. People are being lost to it and that hurts. And yes, its okay too, but that doesn't make it just - not in my reality. It's simply not equitable, balanced or fair. Are these judgments? Not to me. They are discernments based on a thorough exploration of the reality I experience.

Ok, so I see this: I think we see the same events, but each feels them differently, maybe because simply it's either not something I have to deal with (my structure is different, and the distortions to deal with are different), or my job is different.

I think it's great, it's like speaking about the same in different languages. I'm sure there will be people who will identify and resonate with the way you interpret things, and maybe there will be people who will just feel like me.

"absolute and relative truths - finding the balance between the two"

Is there absolute truth at all? I doubt, that as an apparatus, whose perception and functioning depend on its configuration and on universe's generosity, I'll be able to cover the absolute truth as it is ever. But it doesn't bother me, since I trust I'll just know exactly what I and the whole system need...

"Small" question: Isn't there even a tiny 'agreement' of these suffering people to be influenced by the 'web'? cooperation? or/and inner configuration compatibility with this society, that tortures them? they suffer - yes, but do they know there's another way? and if they do, do they choose to go this other way? And if it is so, then is it the matrix, that is responsible for it or themselves?

And here I want to show the other side of the coin. What if it's not the opposing consciousness that is making 'all the trouble'? What if it's us? We, by our collective demand, our collective state define and create it, and then feed it?

Otherwise how can you explain the existance of 'positive' feedback, within the same society, when you want to head in an opposite direction. That's what is happening to me. I feel this society is helping me, and the only times I feel strangled or opposed by it is when I want it to.

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Here's what happened to me a couple of days ago:

I was angry at Dani, claiming, that he is insensitive, and treating me not good enough, and I was sure, that I'm so great, and it's his evil deeds that don't allow us to connect and communicate on a deeper level. It's because he chooses to stick to the society conditioned behaviors and his own distortions, etc etc. I talked to him, he would not only agree, but even understand what I want.

In my desperation, I shouted - you hinder me on my way, you interrupt me! You are the one who doesn't let me out! It's because of YOUUUUU!!!! YOUUUU made me descend back half a year ago, to wait for YOOOOUUUU!!!

As I shut my mouth, I was terrified, I was in complete horror, as I realised that nobody can stand on my way. Nobody. It's all me! Only my responsibility!! My brain was uncapable of digesting this realisation, I was literally having a short circuit in my brain. I needed a restart...But I couldn't get rid of it. I was choking...

Then, as if it was not enough, it stroke me, how badly I treat him! How I'm forcing something on him, not respecting his free will; how I only want him to serve me, be pleasant and compatible to me; how I don't care about HIM, under the surface... How long it's been I wanted to do something nice for him, all concentrated on myself and how good he behaves with me...

I was the one who caused the disconnection, I was the one closed and scared to open and entrust myself to somebody, to give, to help, to comfort and to love. I saw I'm in a safety prison, afraid to get hurt...

All my responsibility..

Then I cried and I cried and I cried...there was no end to it. I really tried to ignore, to run away from it, to find some escuses, but I couldn't. As if someone was insisting, like - NOOOOOOOO <:'0 HEEEEELP....etc etc...I insist...But.. but..I insist!..

It lasted for about 2 hours. It's a miracle I stood it, and wasn't hospitalised in mental institution for the rest of my life as a result of this tearful, snotty and slobbering achievement of mine... :D

Why am I saying this? I've released many staff during this year, and it keeps coming. But at those points I blame someone else, or think that something or someone is keeping me from walking on and evolving, in the end, somehow, it's always my deeds, my choices, me, me and me...

Terrifying and unbeleivable as it may be, I still digest it, but there is nobody to put the blame on, accuse in or find some external motives/reasons/excuses...

one of the things I love about your sharings Yulia is how you powerfully express your truth. I think its a great example/mirror to people, and a great gift. I like how you challenge, and respond, and don't just take what's said for granted. And I can also see how there is the potential for that to be distorted to an extent, where you might feel the authentic energy and perhaps add a little extra to it or 'interpret' it as it flows; as you seem to recognise with the incident with your husband. When does Soul-led become distorted into self-ish? where are the boundaries?

I love how you seemed to realise your responsibility in the above scenario - your responsibility to your truth and also for your actions, though obviously how people RESPOND to you is their responsibility! It seems that dani was providing such a good mirror to you though, in terms of how authentic you were being. An unspoken question perhaps, not of commitment to your truth but of how you were expressing that. And surely you were mirror to him too?

I recently received an email from a family member who I felt I was authentically given to 'distance' myself from a couple of years back. On seeing the email I felt great love and compassion for this person spontaneously arise, and felt possibly it might be right to make contact again. On reading the email however I felt much distortion under the surface words - neediness, anger etc masked by 'loving' words. So is it authentic for me to respond to them? I still don't know. I'm open to the potential, and watching what the mirror shows me. Do I judge this person for the projected energy? NO. My initial reaction was one of great love and compassion. I know I’m not responsible for them or their reactions, but I am responsible for how I respond. I can see how because some of my actions in the past, while coming from a place of truth, were not expressed completely authentically, this produced consequences and reactions. I can see in the mirror this situation more clearly now.

I think perhaps its similar to your situation with your husband. The MOTIVATION for your actions (for how you act in the relationship) was genuine (standing in your truth, doing what feels authentic etc), but the expression of it became distorted? And now he's providing you with a mirror to see that. and perhaps to explore another facet of your self?
I can see this played out in the un-sustainability of society, the distortion of the matrix, the destruction etc. It doesn't feel harmonious or sustainable, yet at the same time I am experiencing more and more often the beauty underneath by acknowledging the souls who are here, and interacting. I can feel the light within, even in those immersed in the system! So I feel like I ‘discern’ the system as inauthentic at one level while at another recognizing its purpose and almost ‘rightness’ on the journey.

I feel we're being invited to feel our authentic truth of how we feel to live in the world, and to look in the mirror around us and see whether the old ways are still serving, without judging them or the mirror. What is it showing us? Then we get to feel and choose where to go from here, individually, and notice how our individual response resonates through the whole. Its not a question of blame, in my view. I may not feel harmonious about people projecting or trying to manipulate, but I don't feel I judge them as right or wrong. I can see the inauthenticity in it from my view (so this applying discernment rather than judging), but also some of the gifts. From this I question or feel what is the most authentic response to it. Because its inauthentic do I disengage from it, or do I feel to engage but energetically or overtly? Perhaps its about giving thanks for the mirror even in the distortions that it shows us, feel how that makes us feel, not how we might want to feel (or feel we are supposed to feel!) and see what unfolds from there. I get the feeling you approach things in a similar way.

In regards injustice; ‘Injustice’, it seems, is a highly emotive word. Like you, I hesitate to use it because it seems potentially judgmental. How do we decide what is ‘just’ or right and what not?
Yet perhaps the limitation is not with the feeling experienced, but with trying to put it into word. After all we are naturally feeling beings, and we feel emotions at times! It doesn’t mean we have to be defined by them, or judge others because of them. So if I feel an emotion akin to happiness or sadness I can say I feel that, just as if I feel an emotion akin to the word ‘injustice’ I can express that too. It doesn’t have to mean I’m judging something as wrong or right. It therefore can be used from a place of discernment, rather than judgment. Do I feel ‘joy’ at the state of society or the matrix? not generally! Do I feel ‘okay’ with it? On one level yes, it feels like in some ways its meant to be, yet on another level no, it doesn’t feel harmonious to me, and perhaps I might look to my part in that and in a movement to higher harmony. So while I think ‘injustice’ has many connotations, if that’s the closest word to express how you authentically feel or discern the situation (and without blame), then perhaps it’s authentic to use.

Hi Yulia,
I think both victim and perpetrator are tough (and dispensable) roles, and yes, no competition there.

I loved your beautiful response! And yes, by all means, let's keep the peace.

Tasneem

Resonated with every word..

About the expression:
You are right about it, it still takes some time for me to understand what's going on before I express myself.. But sometimes I can see only after where I was distorted. It was the case.

To the question - "When does Soul-led become distorted into self-ish? where are the boundaries?" - I think that it depends on what is about to be revealed. Sometimes 'cleaning' has to be done 'subconsciously', otherwise it's too stressful. So even though it was self-ish, it still may be Soul-led, kind of trick to make it happen. Otherwise maybe it would take me much more time to see it, to admit it.

In this specific situation I don't feel I had any other option of dealing with it. I guess it just had to go to that 'noisy' place...

It's interesting that 5 minutes ago I was walking on the street, my evening/night walk, and I asked: is there something I run from, or denying (about this subject we discussed here)? Am I too grasping on 'my truth'? Please, tell me, how the things are? And here's your reply!

Hmmm... :)
And I feel perfectly fit with what you are saying, then I guess, like Chris said, it's all okay.

Thank you,
Yulia

Hi Yulia,

You also questioned earlier in the thread whether or not there was an absolute truth? Your answer to the question you pose above about "grasping your truth" might help shed some light.

In my experience of reality there definitely is an absolute truth and frequently, one of the 'problems' people encounter in the spiritual counseling I do, is a degree of internal confusion between absolute and their relative truths.

So what do I mean by this and how might it help not only you but us all?

When we contemplate it deeply, there must be one absolute truth, because we are all one and we all come from the everything/nothing. Now of course, you could say that this postulation is just my truth and if not everyone holds it, then it can't be absolute. I was asked exactly this question once in a seminar. My answer was and is: "let's suppose we all lived in our own unique reality experiencing our own truth. Isn't this one absolute truth?"

To me, there is a place of pure presence, the Source of everything. Everyone who has really tested who and what they are discovers this hallowed place eventually. I sense that you're testing those boundaries now. That nothing really matters and therefore in that place, you can be just as loud as you like. You can do what you want, offend anyone, why should it matter? We are all one, we are eternal, we can't be harmed and we can't die (at least not as the Seer).

But the Seer is being experienced. We can't avoid that either. And our experience is unique for each of us. This then is relative truth. You have your way of expressing reality and I have mine. Without that, there could be no experience at all.

Now I believe that the purpose of the universe is to move to a place of balanced equilibrium - nirvana. I believe it because I am continually witnessing how the universe is dissolving out inequity, injustice and disharmony. There seems to be a constant movement to higher harmony. This harmony comes from finding our destiny: in my truth, that is enlightenment.

In enlightenment, we're always coming from the place of the Seer - from absolute truth. Yet to truly stay in that place the whole time, then we must master our expression of relative truth aswell. If we do not, then firstly, there tends to be identification with the illusion and ownership or else denial of our true purpose (to express absolute truth relatively). Secondly, if we do not continually find our highest expression, then we're not being of service to all - which I also observe is an natural aspect of each soul expressed in different ways as compassion. For example, being too 'loud' with some people might send them off into an unnecessary spin, when a quieter word might have facilitated a less painful evolution.

Now with this last part, I could be accused of judgment (again :smile:), in that it could be their destiny to go off into a spin. Indeed it could. And if we are caused to contemplate this conundrum, then we might observe whether we are truly at peace with how we were being. If we are, then there tends to be no question about how we're being - there's simply the flow. At the end of the day, like you said Yulia, we have a responsibility to our own expression and if we get that right, then we can rest in peace trusting that we're having exactly the right impact on our environment.

Remember though, it's highly likely that you'll find compassion an authentic aspect of your beingness. Of course I can't guarantee this, because it would have to be your truth. It just seems that such compassion naturally arises from the source in all people who really touch it. But of course, it is always expressed in a unique way. To kick away someone else's crutch of disempowerment is kindness too!

I feel, like Pandora box was opened here :D

First of all, I don't ask this question what is the truth? be it absolute or individual... All this conversation happened because I always feel something just isn't right for me when judgment, as I may see it, is leaking through the words.

It was actually about that, so I just felt I have to rise it up..It was not my intention to make anything truth or untruth.

About testing boundaries, I test them as long as I remember myself. It was like this when I was a child, I always asked "Why?", why should I do it this way? why is it right? I even asked my mom once: "mama....why moon?" :D

Now, about the truth and balance...Let's take our world.. I'm sure, that Dani's parents feel it is so injust, cruel towards them and selfish of me not to want to bring children. They want it sooo much. And for me it's injust to demand of me to do something I don't want to. So what's the balance? Bring half-a-child? :D

How do you decide such a thing? I'm sure that the ways of the universe are much more complicated than just break it to justice and injustice and balance it.

That's why I stoped playing with this kind of contemplations. It is really not bothering me. Why would you feel it's so important to make the absolute truth exist? Isn't it all just words and playing with them? Isn't it more important how we feel? I don't see in our conversation here something to fish, something to say 'yes' or 'no', right or wrong. All I see is some kind of energetical exchange. It made me test myself, it stired something in me. Finally, it made me pray for an answer..

For example, it's interesting to me to see how we are reverberatin each other here, you and me. It's shaking something, it's making us relate to all these points and dig how we feel about it, but also see other possibility, like a hint - rigidity softening..

Now this sentence really touched something in me:
You can do what you want, offend anyone, why should it matter?

I don't know if it's a curse or a blessing, but I actually can feel what other people feel. It makes it pretty impossible for me to hurt anybody. Not on purpose, not because I think I can do it. I can. I know to touch these painful buttons if I want to.

Now, I do have in me sadistic and masochistic tendencies, I also know where they come from. The first from feeling insecure and humiliated in my childhood and teens, the other from guilt that my mom cultivated in us from all different reasons... or I prefer to see it in a way, that I was given a couple of thrills to deal with later.

But even now, when I don't mind pain, and I don't mind when people want to hurt me, or do hurt me, I won't offend anybody, with it being a goal.

I might hurt if I really feel I have to say or do something, regardless of consequences and reaction. It's all.

Now after defending myself, why do you think it touched me so much?
Were you trying to 'offend' me? ;) Or is it something that's blocking me, and I don't see it?

Hi Yulia,

I certainly wasn't trying to offend you. That simply isn't my way :smile: But yes, clearly something has sparked off. There is something moving and I'm sure I see what it relates to.

Interestingly you say...

    "Now, I do have in me sadistic and masochistic tendencies, I also know where they come from. The first from feeling insecure and humiliated in my childhood and teens, the other from guilt that my mom cultivated in us from all different reasons... or I prefer to see it in a way, that I was given a couple of thrills to deal with later."

You see this cuts directly to the point I was making about absolute and relative truths. The sadistic and masochistic tendencies you speak of do not originate with your childhood. At least not in my truth. They originate as a natural expression of the soul testing absolute truth but in a way that has become distorted.

The soul is an expression of the absolute and contains the continual memory of absolute together with the purpose to express. So the soul knows that we - as the absolute - cannot be harmed in any way and the same goes for anyone else we might be 'sadistic' towards. So when we're really touching the soul and coming from it, it will likely test issues like these including for example our own mortality... to actually take our own life though would be a distortion - because there is the hidden implication that we can't accept reality the way it is, which of course the soul can (there could be exceptional circumstances to this, where death may be inevitable anyway such as jumping off a collapsing building for example or if we're being confined and we've learned all we needed to from the confinement).

In knowing this absolute truth and actually continually realising it, is a tremendous freedom. It's continual contemplation alone can spur one to enlightenment.

Yet of course sadism and masochism are distortions - simply in their implication to do harm. That's a judgment in itself and is not authentic to core beingness. So in realising the true source of these expressions, and centering in those whilst in the feelings, can dissolve the distortions and leave the authentic expression fully liberated.

This then is the power of 'unraveling' absolute and relative truth. In reality, they are integrated, but until we too are fully whole, we'll tend to get the two separating out in our lives. The integration of both is walking the path and leads to our enlightenment.

I felt to explore the question of absolute and relative truths further. I see that no one has felt to go deeper with it yet and I can understand why - it sounds obtuse and complex - almost irrelevant, yet in understanding it, we may bring a powerful tool to bear within our evolution. So I felt to explore it further, but with a direct application for people to try, which may be easier to understand.

Contemplate the whole notion of suicide for example or something that may cause you to contract and tighten inside - whatever it is that gets you into some kind of downward tail spin. I said that at the core of each experience was the absolute truth, being expressed in a soulful way that had become distorted, and that in exploring the relative experience (by that I mean the actual phenomenal experience ie what you suffer), you can strip away the distortion and be left with the truth.

So here's an example and a tool that we can each apply. On one of the Openhand courses, we explore death. I've guided a meditation where people are brought to jump off a tall building. Death is a very natural part of a soul's life. The soul will invite us at some point in our incarnation to explore it deeply. That's because the purpose of the soul is to know ourselves experientially as the Seer, which is beyond mortality and incarnation completely. So the soul is going to test this barrier in our lives at some point - it is simply unavoidable.

So when we take people into the meditation, there's an internal dynamic that begins to take place. In any moment inside of us, is an interaction going on between Unity Consciousness (the soul) and Separation Consciousness (the bodymind). The soul infuses into the bodymind through the chakras - what I call "consciousness exchange points". Now in a fully integral, sentient being (what we're all coming to), the Unity Consciousness - Soul Consciousness - should flow unhindered and seamlessly through the bodymind. There is no tightening or closing down around events. In which case, we are free to be pure presence - the Seer.

However, because the soul is not yet fully enlightened - or put more accurately - the Seer is not yet fully enlightened through the time/space of our soul - then the soul catches at various points through the bodymind and gets stuck - like getting a spoon stuck in a thick jar of treacle. The interaction between the spoon and the treacle is so engaging, that the spoon becomes covered in treacle and the Seer is lost in the dynamic. In other words, WE get lost in the dynamic.

Try it for yourself and see what happens. Next time for example you're lying in bed at night, or in the quietness of the early morning and perhaps you might be reflecting on something you consider to be unpleasant (your mortality for example or that of someone close to you). Go deep into the drama of it. Invoke the imagery of it and the feelings that go with it. Build as complete a picture as you can. Then bring your attention into your body and notice where the tightness is. You'll probably find yourself holding all kinds of bodily tension: in the hands perhaps, or the face maybe and through the eyes in particular. Maybe the chest tightens and the breathing gets shallower.

Now without switching off the mental imagery and feeling, go deep into the tightness of the body and let go. Breathe deeply into the chest and abdomen.

Then continue to contemplate the situation that is causing the tightness deeper and deeper from the perspective of the absolute. In other words, that as the Seer, there is no such thing as death or harm or suffering. Only infinite pure presence and you are that. Look for the key - an aspect of the soul - that opens the doorway into this absoluteness. So for example, you jump off the building, explore the fear, release the tightness by bringing deep attention into it, then look for the lightness through it - the empowerment of an authentic soulful expression. For me, it might be the experience of flying and how wonderfully liberating this experience is.

So now the experience of empowerment causes me to drop into the place of pure presence. The soul is liberated through complete expression and as attachment to the bodymind falls away, we are totally empowered as the Seer. We become who we truly are.

This technique (and variations of it) can be used in ALL dramas we may face in life. Watching the tightness, going deep into it, letting go, finding the lightness of the soul and riding its wave into the Seer. To me, this is the path to enlightenment (or at least one of them!).

This is what I ultimately mean by separating relative truth - the distorted experience - from absolute truth - pure presence - so that we may peel away the distortion, liberate the soul and return to the balanced equilibrium of the Seer that we are. Continually riding the wave of the soul in this way is simply pure nirvana!

I didn't reply to your previous post because I had to think about it...

Two days ago I met my friend, and we always talk about the world and ourselves, sharing our experiences and perceptions... Many times when I talk to her, I can clearly see the shift in me relatively to our previous conversation..

This time I felt something, but I couldn't understand what exactly. After I read what you said about testing and questioning the reality and the truth, including my own mortality/immortality.

In the beginning I thought: wow, this guy just will turn anything into something spiritual, even if it's just piece of kaka (sorry, but that's what I thought :D )..

Then I began to put recent events, situations and even dreams together.

You are GENIUS!!!

Just look at this:
1. About month ago I had this dream: I'm in the middle of chaos. I know something happened, like the world is crumbling, something really 'bad'. I know that many people died, and I can die in any moment. I feel ok with it, I'm not worried at all. I'm near my mom and I know Dani is somewhere around. She's trying to talk on the phone, but she has no voice, so I'm trying to help her, to 'translate' her.

I have two supervisors in university - a man and a woman, so I know she's fine, but suddenly I realize something wrong happened to him. I become paralized, horrified by this understanding. And there I suddenly get it. People all around are dying, people I know, people I love. Here I woke up...

2. Two weeks ago, on Friday, my sister is telling me my ex-boyfriend killed himself.
Day after, on Saturday, Dani tells me, that the guy from his gym is dead, killed himself too. We are going to comfort his parents, etc. I had to deal with thoughts about death and suffering.

3. Then we discuss all this topic about truth and the world, etc. and I feel like my head is getting bigger and wider, and something in me stirred and shaken.

4. Today I had another apocalyptic dream. Me and Dani are in the bank (something not real, it's a dream...modern building with external walls from glass)... And suddenly we see people panicking, looking out the windows/walls. We look outside, and there, like on a huge screen I see people running, or on the bikes, no cars...all running in our direction. And behind them and under them creeping some kind of red, scarlet web, in form of cracks in the ground in desert. I understand that this is some kind of radiation spreading, and the red thing is the ground response to it. Then I recall that there were all kinds of talks about armageddon, end of the world, planets in one line, etc, but everybody was denying it..

I feel like a child who saw a bear, and want to hide. Me and Dani hug each other, preparing to die. Then I feel I want to deal with it. I leave him, and I go to the window. I see all this red is spreading and getting closer and closer, and suddenly I'm not afraid anymore. I smile, and I see it with curiousity and openness.

But then, I see how one man on a bike is touching his head and neck. I see something terrible is happening to him, and I feel pity and sadness again.. My heart is all 'crying'. I wake up.

Now... What is it about? Ok, it seems it's ok I suffer, I die (I'm still not sure about it), but I still can't accept someone else's suffering? someone else's death? I don't get it...

What the h.. is going on here?

Hi Yulia,

I would say your experiencing either karma, prophetic visions or most likely both!

It's clear (to me anyway) that your causal body is drawing people and situations to you to invoke a past life experience where many people around you died. I get the sense of World War Two - maybe Germany. The event will have caused you much personal suffering at the time, energy that you carried with you in your causal body and which the soul now 'gets stuck on' during this incarnation.

So as the soul shines down through the causal body, thereby creating the outer circumstances of your life, the karma casts a shadow. In this case it is the attachment to the suffering of others. No matter how much you intellectualise non-attachment, the feelings prevail. It doesn't matter how much journeying you've done, it doesn't matter how much you've let go or how advanced you are, what happens now is that the karma washes through ones being and it's practically all we see until we've processed it.

And to me, the only real way to process it is to go deeply into the experiences that are arising in and around you. Be present with then. It will draw you into a fourth dimensional experience (where the karma is held) which is why you see the red web. This is likely a metaphor for that which is holding you back from the fifth dimension. The approach is to invoke in the circumstances that which you fear most. Feel the energy, let it wash through you, then look for the key that opens the door into the lightness. I know you have my book Five Gateways. Take a look at Gateway 4 again - it talks all about this process.

As I also said, I get the sense that you may well be having prophetic visions too - not of the future because no one can truly predict what is going to happen - but rather of a co-creative reality that is ALREADY happening. The image of people running or on bikes but no cars seems particularly illuminating. To me it speaks of people becoming more at one with the natural eco-systems of the earth, but right on the precipice of destruction - which to me, we already are.

I say this because many awakening people are seeing similar apocalyptic visions. There are many scientists now speaking of an inevitable rise in the planets temperature of six centigrade over the coming decades. I sense we've already passed key tipping points which will bring this into reality. Have you any idea what that would mean for the planet as a whole and humanity in particular? We're looking at a potential future (something that's already shaping now) which has a fraction of the food growing land, a fraction of the energy and water and therefore a fraction of the people.

I believe that's the new harmony we're moving to. It will likely be a very difficult transition, one which humanity has drawn to itself. And at the same time, it's probably exactly what the majority of us need to invoke the karma necessary to process, release and evolve into the higher paradigm. For there to be a pheonix, there has to be a fire!

...all this stuff <:(

Ok, at least it's never boring :D

P.s: did you see? I fixed it! From now on no 'staff' anymore! :D

Hi Open,

I posted these questions earlier in the thread, I wonder if you could respond to them! thanks :)

What is the symbolic message of the AIDS epidemic that has been spreading across the globe?

I've also been wondering how interesting it is that the biggest oil reserves in the world are in the middle east, especially considering the traditional rivalry between the Christianity and Islam religions. Why did these Muslim countries happen to be holding the most essential resources the industrialized world desperately need? is there a deeper meaning here?

Moreover, what does the extreme poverty in much of the Africa mean to us? how does it fit in the big picture?

hi lei

I wondered what do YOU feel about it? What do you see as the deeper meaning?
:-)
with interest...
from

Ben

Hi Lei,

I would say the questions you're posing are inviting you to evolve the way you view global synchronicity.

To me, it's not like situations were necessarily purposefully set up in a particular way. I don't see any kind of 'governing authority' saying "this is the lesson they need to get" and then engineering particular circumstances.

What I see is a movement from a less synchronistic, coordinated and co-creative harmony to a naturally higher one. Yes, by the Law of Attraction (authentically expressed), group dynamics do draw certain experiences to us as a race. Consciousness is like a magnet and a mirror. It draws and creates those situations that can help clarify where we're at, and provoke corresponding deeper realisations.

In so doing, internally we are each moving to a higher vibration. It is in this process that we get to see a higher synchronistic order to life, where everything starts to speak. It's like emptying a jigsaw puzzle from its box and dropping the pieces on the floor in a muddled pile. Then watching the natural energetic pull bringing the pieces together. No one is orchestrating, but as the pieces begin to click into place, if we are awake and watching, we'll start seeing the bigger picture.

In answer to your specific questions, with regards to AIDS for example, it may be inviting us to look at the sacred nature of sexual intimacy. Perhaps it also invites us to look at our responsibility with regards to continued population expansion. It seems in most cultures around the world, there's little or no individual contemplation encouraged about the bigger population picture and the disastrous effects that's having on the planetary eco-system. But that's just a personal view - what do you feel?

With regards to the Middle East, the fact that Muslim countries hold much of the oil reserves might be inviting greater tolerance, understanding and more open-mindedness from all religious parties involved. Yes is would seem like Christian and Muslim cultures are being invited to be more accepting of each other and cooperative. Whether that actually happens is an entirely different issue!

You ask about poverty in Africa - that's another interesting one. Of course many would consider it the 'cradle of humanity'. Africa is actually quite rich in natural resources, but it seems those resources have not yet been harnessed to the benefit of all. Rather it's been exploited by a controlling few. Perhaps then, it's showing a wider message to the global community... use your resources wisely, caringly and for the benefit of all. It's also a country where harmony with the climate is a life and death issue. Again, perhaps this is a wider message to the global balance of resources and the corresponding impact of climate change?

Yes to me, everything contains a deeper significance and although we're each likely to see it in a slightly different way, there will be one underlying consensus reality compeling us to coordinate in co-creative action with our entire planetary eco-system. And as well as this global mirror, there's also an entirely personal reflection inviting us each to express our individuality in relation to it. Everything is indeed exquisitely interconnected.

To me the AIDS epidemic mirrors us the sense of anxiety and hopelessness we're having in relation to our sexuality. Our modern day life is so much driven by sexual urges, our lives revolve so much around it, we as individuals can clearly see how it's destroying our own life yet feel completely hopeless in resisting its power. Of course, we can break its spell once we see it's only an illusion. I tend to believe AIDS is a myth, HIV virus does not cause AIDS, it is simply a misdiagnosis, propagated by the pharmaceutical industry to sell drugs and treatments. Most patients die of toxic effects of drugs and anxiety rather than illness. Our bodies are intelligent organisms that can completely heal itself of any diseases when given right conditions, I find it very strange there is just this one single illness caused by this very strange virus that is completely incurable. Probably when we break the spell of our sex hormones we'll also see through the illusion of AIDS.

With regards to the Middle East, the fact that Muslim countries hold much of the oil reserves might be inviting greater tolerance, understanding and more open-mindedness from all religious parties involved. Yes is would seem like Christian and Muslim cultures are being invited to be more accepting of each other and cooperative.

That's also how I feel. So, metaphorically speaking, our greatest 'enemies' is holding the greatest treasure our souls desperately want us to discover.

As for Africa, it does seem to represents the root of humanity as much of the continent is still quite primitive in their culture and way of life. To me the extreme poverty of many of the countries mirrors the great poverty of our modern day culture and how much we're disconnected with our root. It also seem to mirror the dark shadow in our collective psyche, the discrimination and prejudices we hold against others - our separation.

Lei