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Recently we had quite a debate in our forum about how eating animals influences and affects our spirituality. Gauging by the response, it was clearly a very emotive subject. At the time though, we weren't aware of a documentary called "Earthlings", which is potentially the most comprehensive visual account of the society's incredibly inhumane treatment of animals. As I watched, it was not the occasional brutality by the odd misguided person which really disturbed me. What shocked me most, was the wholesale brutality of the industrial food production line, operating 24/7 in all corners of the globe. Although the film is a sickening indictment to the bankruptcy of society's moral foundations, we felt it vitally important to share. In this revolution of consciousness, our greatest possibility for collective evolution, is to shine the light into all the darkened recesses where ignorance hides...

Harrowing but enlightening film
Although I suspected the film would be deeply harrowing before even seeing it, I felt it was my duty to watch, be motivated into personal action and then share with others who might do the same. It is important to remember that to be truly enlightened, is to be enlightened by all things.

Do you have the courage to truly confront an inconvenient truth, no matter how unpalatable, and then do something about it? Here at Openhand we truly believe a more harmonious way exists where we live in harmony with all animals in self sustaining local communities. It may at times seem a long way off, but as increasingly more material like this comes to light, increasingly more of us will inevitably turn our backs on this defunct system which is long past its sell-by-date.

Below is the short trailer followed by the full 95 minute documentary. Following which, you might be further interested in our forum inquiry and to share further with others...
A contemplation on the spirituality of veganism
Thankyou for your courage, your light and your support...

Here's the trailer and the full documentary...

The Openhand Team

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The Other David's picture

I always recommend that film to anyone promoting meat-eating. I think it should be shown in school. Fascinating enough many people object that with the argument that it is too horrifing.

Better we put a smiling pig on the product, the truth would be too much for most people...

This strips away everything for me... Sad Nothing can be real... How can people do this ? Im asking that question, HOW ? How does any kind of life form become capable of being that cruel.. Why the cruelty.. I know theres money and business greeds but how do they get pushed to this limit of horror, How does compassion completely disappear ? and again, with added cruelty ? How ? How ? How ? I quit meat long ago, for the simple feeling of what I was chewing on, when discussing it I could only imagine the horrors of food factories, but this films TRUTH reflection is beyond any horror I could have ever dreamed up.. I didnt know that man actually had this in him to exist this way...Where does this come from...? Im still in total shock over this, for me life will never be the same...
Love
-Bill

David's picture

I found this a very insightful and also upsetting film. The suffering of animals is very painful and hard to witness. The fact that a being can do that do another being, not just in the slaughtering and cruelty but in the actions and ignorance of supporting such an industry. I mean everyone might not be aware of what goes on in such depth, but there is no hiding from the fact that animals suffer in whatever way they are farmed. With this sort of disconnection to life it is hard to see how the majority of humanity can move forward to a more harmonious way of living.

David

I agree David, it is hard to see how the majority of humanity can move forward to a more harmonious way of living. I almost felt hopelessness for all mankind... but my question is Why and How..?
It just doesnt even seem mathematically possible for anyone to do that... I would flow with the Bluff of Nature saying more so if there wasnt actual horrendous innocent suffering with these animals, although I know their going to a better place, I guess the cruelty just serves as the testing of us..?
It seem s such an ugly game... BIG TEST..
Love
-Bill

The Other David's picture

It is not only animals. We did this with humans too and still do it in many places of the world.

In the beginning of this year I had a time where I was being confronted with my darkness, it was a very hard time for me (having had some kind of nice spiritual self image). A lot of pictures and feelings came up.

For me it is not "them" anymore. I am absolutely sure I am capable of doing all this and I know in my heart that I have done all of it. I have murdered, tortured, raped, I had lives where I explored my darkness to extreames. I saw all this in me and even if I feel that I am done with that now I have zero doubt that all of us carry a good deal of darkness in our story.

This is a creation of duality. We are here in 3D to explore and experience duality. There are no limits to this exploration and from the perspective of unity darkness and suffering are very strong and interessting experiences.

It may sound heartless to say this, but that is what I saw. Being confronted with all that inside of me (not outside where I could point my finger at someone else) I had to explore this in a very new way. Will I judge and condemn myself for what I did, or will I forgive myself and accept this as part of my journey and experience?

I am today sure that my former rejection of cruelty is proportional to my ability to be cruel. I also found that in that rejection was a fascination with it. (I still reject cruelty, but in a different way)

Especially for people who lived in 4D realms for a time, the experieces here on earth may be very fascinating indeed. I belive it to be one of the few planets with the whole range of possibilities - from total denseness to ascension.

I do not know if my story is "normal", maybe my soul had a special interest in the darkness. But if we confront material like that in "earthlings" it might be good to explore for everyone what it does with us and how it relates to ourself. Rarely something shows up in our reality that has no connection to us. Especially if it is an emotioal issue for us.

At least I feel much more at peace with my darkness and also with the outer one, having confronted it.

The Other David

The Other David, thanks for that sharing...I understand, I know this has to be watched, ALOT of people who see this I believe will CHANGE ON THE SPOT... I personally know that I NEED to watch this whole film with acceptance of my consciousness as a next step of my inward clearing, CHALLENGE OF MY LIFE, but after just a few images in my mind from the trailer I have to admit, I havent been able to find the courage yet, (8 hrs) Im actually feeling so apprehensive, Im scared of those images... Im more afraid of seeing this more than anything Ive ever been confronted with in my life and thats the gods honest truth, I know its in my power be different, and face it, accept it as me, I just wished I had been more self aware and kept that more in mind going in to watch as opposed to unsuspectingly have my heart ripped out, because I never even ever considered this as a possibility of existence THIS KIND OF DARKNESS ...
I have to get both sides together inside... Ive always had dogs, when the first one died it was the absolute worst, but now my evolving with it the last few dog deaths, I realize the other side of our relationship, the living side and then I learned the even more powerful death side, in which my love flowed even deeper for all things through their deaths...
I guess with this Ill just stop a while and see what emerges on it own...

Your energy helps...

-Bill

Chris Bourne's picture

Hi David (and Bill),

You said...

    "if we confront material like that in "earthlings" it might be good to explore for everyone what it does with us and how it relates to ourself. Rarely something shows up in our reality that has no connection to us. Especially if it is an emotional issue for us."

This is exactly my reason for sharing the video. Yes I found it very emotive too and I know many would be upset by it. But you're right, this darkness is a part of humanity - a part of us. And we can't process it without confronting it, without working with it.

You also said something else which for me is very important...

    "With this sort of disconnection to life it is hard to see how the majority of humanity can move forward to a more harmonious way of living."

Yes indeed! What I see is that we're currently living in two overlapping worlds. There's the physical one of which our bodies are a part. There's a tendency to keep identifying with it because everything we process internally tends to express through the five physical senses.

But there's a higher paradigm which is interwoven through it. We access that by coming from the heart and interpreting everything in the physical as a metaphoric symbol of the higher paradigm. If we attach emotionally to the lower world - as we see slaughter for example - then we keep being pulled back to it.

It's fine to discern brutality, it's fine to be emotive about that, but the moment we slip into judgment of it, and of non-acceptance - I mean not accepting where other humans are at - then this is the moment where we ourselves form a limiting relationship with the lower vibration, the lower harmony, the lower world and we are sucked back into it.

But if we keep working with those energies of attachment, then over time, we'll loose our limiting relationship with the lower world and we'll transition across to the higher one.

At this point something else really powerful happens. When you're continually shining the light of the higher world, then you become increasingly able to confront the lower one and break it down - we start truly transforming the lower reality.

It's like this, let's say I confront someone who is okay with brutalising animals. I might say something to confront that. But if I load that with any kind of attached energy (of judgment), they will feel it at some level, it will likely get their back up and they'll close down. The interaction perpetuates their stuckness and also the lower harmony. That's why fighting the injustice is not going to work.

However, what I've found is that if you confront the lower harmony and the people in it with opennness and total transparency with no judgment, if you can have the patience to build a bridge and be totally accepting of their truth (accepting it as a reality which is real for them, no matter even if it is seemingly barbaric to you), then your questioning has a great deal more effect. An empowered question like "how do you feel about the suffering of that animal" for example and then exploring that with them, inviting them all the time to go ever deeper, then at some level they do start to get it.

Also, if I can hold this darkness in my consciousness without attaching to it, then what I do is send out ripples of energy. I'm acting as a channel for the possibility of the question. Now more and more people feel that question... "is this in my highest truth? what would be a truly higher expression of me?"

I noticed this a number of years back. I'd confront something in my own environment - pesticides in food for example - I'd focus on it, work with it, let go of tightness around it, but still hold it in my consciousness. Days later I'd see articles about it in newspapers and people starting to talk about it. This happened with many, many things.

No I'm not saying I initiated it! I'm saying I was connecting to a wave of inquiry and realisation within the surrounding field for which I then became a willing vessel and channel. This harnessed the energy and focused it more strongly.

To me, this is how the revolution of consciousness will really work. We don't have to attack the old system. In fact that will only perpetuate it. But neither do we have to intentionally manifest a new one from our imagination. This will only create another lower level illusion.

It must burst naturally forwards from our hearts. The new paradigm is ALREADY unfolding all around us. We simply have to be a willing channel for that to happen.

Chris

Trinity's picture

I imagine across the world the most typical response to this film is 'how on earth are human beings capable of such madness and cruelty?'. This film shows the depth of ignorance that humankind has. The carries across to the destruction of Mother Earth as well as the endless violation against our own species. I think that everybody should watch this film. We should all know what is going on on our planet. I have been a vegan for 17 years and had seen many such images in my earlier days, yet the film has even evoked change within me.

To me (and anyone) the film is deeply disturbing. I felt it essential to see what was going on. I don't want to be ignorant to all of this whilst my fellow 'being' are going through the most horrendous suffering. If I am supporting those industries in anyway, I want to know so that I can make a choice.

I cannot be held accountable for the food industry BUT I do buy organic vegan food. Now I am asking whether the organic fertilisers have animal by products. Blood meal, bone meal, and other animal by-products are permitted in certified organic production. The film doesn't mention this but I immediately felt the link when I saw one of the scenes.

I usually purchase my clothes from charity/thrift stores. Yet am I inadvertently supporting the animal testing industry? The Cancer Research shop and British Heart Foundation both pour millions of pounds into animal testing!

With Love
Trinity

Trinity's picture

I don't think you are alone in wondering if there is hope for humanity at all Bill. I expect that many people will be thinking the same. The fact that you are alive and you feel the way you do. The fact that there are many others who feel the same is testimony to hope that people will find a way beyond it all. Without people like you, making a conscious choice there really is little hope.

Those who have incarnated and touched unity and oneness within are here to hold that like a beacon and let it shine outwards. We have freewill. We have a choice. But the only way to make any of this suffering and insanity worthwhile is to find the light within yourself and let it shine outwards. Let that like inspire your actions. Live by example. Divine consciousness will do the rest.

With Love
Trinity

I hear you so so much, I know what everyone is saying,I know the higher choice and the importance of this shift, and the importance of the inward focus Chris.... This for me personally is the issue of my life... it rings deeply deeply... I have always been so sensative and empathetic since I can remember.. Ive never even in my life ever even as a child involved in a hundred playground fights over sports ever hit anyone in the face fighting, I couldnt hit them even when I had wide open shots... Id just pretend to miss... honestly... I couldnt even pierce the worms on the hooks as a child fishing... I could never kill an insect ever, I put them outside...I volunteered at a humane society thinking that those loving lonely scared animals that werent gonna make it out alive could at least experience some loving care for the moments I could provide them, even if only for a few moments, REAL LOVE from a person that seemed so important to me... however after a few weeks I instantly noticed my feeling of seeing dogs that I got to know there, I could hardly say goodbye to go home from them, and then come in and see they were gone, it got me fast, and Im sorry to say I wasnt strong enough to even be a man and love what I wanted to love... To this day I walk a long way around things as to not step on the grass, I cant smash it... so I know this issue is of key importance to me personally as far as processing whatever cause Ive been physically ill in the stomach all day from this... But I realize how my over-harmonious lifestyle is being tested/awakened to serve the BIGGER SPIRIT of these animals and people alike for a higher purpose... I cant continue to HOLD THINGS IN PLACE, I have to open more if I really care for ALL....
Thanks Trinity, Chris, and both Davids
Love
-Bill

David's picture

Hi David,

Reading your post led me to deeply explore my truth and feelings around this subject.

In your post you said:

"I saw all this in me and even if I feel that I am done with that now I have zero doubt that all of us carry a good deal of darkness in our story."

I don't feel we all have come from the same place and therefore not explored the darkness in such a deep way. I personally cannot relate to this type of infliction on another being as being a part of me.

David

This is horrific! I've been against this for years.... But now, I am wondering what to wear on my feet.!
However, what the doc does not suggest is the immortality of the animals. i.e What is an earthling?

The derivation from the noun earth by means of the suffix -ling is already seen in Old English eyrþling, in the meaning "ploughman". The sense of "inhabitant of earth" is first attested in 1593. Use in Science fiction dates to 1949, in Red Planet by Robert Heinlein.[1][2]

In Early Modern English, the word was used with the intention of contrasting "earth" with "heaven", and so presenting man as an inhabitant of the sublunary sphere, as opposed to heavenly creatures or deities.[3]

Chris Bourne's picture

Yes I agree David - it's not necessarily the case that EVERYONE incarnated has been the cause of these things. Yet as you know, you're incarnated here because you were drawn to it for a purpose. Perhaps to explore and let go more? Perhaps to influence more in a positive way? So as I know you know, the inquiry is deeply beneficial to everyone here.

Chris

The Other David's picture

Hi David,

yes, I also sensed that while writing my post, wich is why I said: "I do not know if my story is "normal", maybe my soul had a special interest in the darkness."

I guess all journeys vary a lot. I tend to generalize my own experience, thank you.

I still think there is always a good deal of mirroring in all we react to emotionally.

Another possibility of this would be that we carry a sort of judgment about these "lowly savage beings" following their lowest instincts, thinking we are superior to that.

The question then would be: Can you totally dislike what these people do and state so in all clearness, while still loving them in full acceptance for the journey they have chosen? Look at them in the Knowing that they too are immortal souls coming from the same source of love.

The Other David

someone's picture

Very painful! I was surprised I was able to watch, usually I would turn away and hide... This feeling of inability to perceive and accept the dark, violent, cruel part of life accompanies me since 13.

But always my complaints went not to humans, but to the organizing power. How can it be??!!! If the nature is so powerful (as we see it now), then again, it could stop long time ago. And again I say - this is not the point, in my view.

In earthlings it's humans, ok, here's how it's happening in nature, and I don't feel much better (able to accept it):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdCC-XEYt-Q&feature=related

I agree that in human consumption case it goes so far that it's just... Never people had meat every day, ever in human history. And never it was done in an industrial line.
We are many now, and this is the way it is, how can you feed all this mass? This is how 'creativity' looks when many people are hungry, like 'destructivity'.

I don't have a problem with others killing for survival, even if it involves pain and suffering, maybe I would do this too if I needed to, but this is something else here. I feel it also in supermarkets.

For me this is a sign of mass binge eating, to bury the real hunger, hunger for love and happiness (I did it too).
People are addicted to food, sex, all this, to hide there.
I'm sure that many, many of them know very well where it all comes from (it doesn't fall from the sky, right?), but denial is a great defense mechanism, I know I had it big time. And it serves its job, another dissipative mechanism.

Also for me it is about the inability to accept the pain, the sorrow, all these 'unpleasant' but so deep and interesting sensations.

So when I see suffering there and identify with it and want to fight it - it is MY pain and suffering which I won't accept.

And the last - I can sense the power that one might experience when taking life, like it is the other side of giving it. I have something 'pervert' about it, compassion too, of course, but I mean that I can really get into the feeling how it can be done and even enjoyed (maybe I did it once? :S

So, while really feeling sad, this works in no other way for me, but the usual way. No looking outside at people THEEERE, somewhere, outside, and also not on these animals, but myself.

THIS is MY face, this is who I am, clearly, BOTH the animals and the murderers, a victim and a butcher. Two sides of the same coin.

I begin to get used to see past the 'scenario' into the meaning. Hard, painful, but it feels more true.

Sad

Trinity's picture

To me there is an enormous difference between animals in nature hunting to survive and what we see happening in the Earthling video.

In the Earthling video we are seeing animals produced, farmed, tortured willingly by humans. This is born from greed, misplaced power struggle and ignorance. I don't see this in the wild.

    Yulia wrote: "And the last - I can sense the power that one might experience when taking life, like it is the other side of giving it. I have something 'pervert' about it, compassion too, of course, but I mean that I can really get into the feeling how it can be done and even enjoyed (maybe I did it once?"

I really don't understand this as an emotion. It is a completely alien concept to me that anyone could imagine enjoying taking the life of another sentient being. Subjegating others has never been my path since incarnating on Earth. I've never understood this. In movies I see how people loved watching others kill each other for sport, in arenas, cheering, willing it to happen. In past lives I have witness and experienced the most horrendous of crimes, yet never once understood why humans derive pleasure out of subjegating other life forms.

Any insight welcomed.

Trinity
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someone's picture

As I see it - this distortion is mainly masochistic. Sadism-masochism are strongly correlated. the way you treat others is actually how you treat yourself.

THIS is how they feel towards themselves, I think.

I used to derive pleasure from self-injury. I was beating my head on the wall until blood was pouring out of my forehead. I was cutting my arms, burning myself and smashing myself against walls, beaten myself with 4 kg weights on my face, cutting it. And I did try to kill myself. (Now I think it had to do with trying to get out of the body, get rid of it, and of the suffering)

This is intro-directed violence/aggression. Most people can't do that, they direct it outwards, kill and torture others.

Now this is a physical case, but no different than the abuse people do every day to each other. They torture each other and kill each other's souls by their demands, expectations, games. They are unhappy and want to make everybody around as miserable as themselves.

And this is not because they are evil, but because they are lost and unhappy. Once you show them love, they open like flowers, all this is gone.

PAIN lies at the root of such behavior and of these pleasures. Deep, terrible pain they can't deal with. So it turns to a revenge, to a fight with life, with what we got here. At least that's what I found in myself.

someone's picture

BTW, I didn't mean that killing in nature is the same as that shown in Earthlings, I meant that it is also very hard for me to see and accept...

Chris Bourne's picture

I feel there's an key insight missing from the thread which might help shed some light on why people would conduct such abusive behaviour.

In every distortion there is a hidden truth. The universe is continually exploring reality through experience. There is an inherent and totally natural impulse to create and realise within the creations. To experience hot by confronting cold for example, up by confronting down. So no matter what goes on, it is an entirely unintentional flow which generates experience and from that knowing which in turn leads to understanding.

For me, in this situation, the exploration buried deep within some of the behaviours of brutality, is an exploration of the whole nature of physicality: to experience apparent, absolute separation from the all-that-is; to know the quintessence of immortality through the exploration of mortality.

At the highest level we know the physical world is a complex illusion right? It is one that very powerfully persuades us we are not divine, we are not immortal, we do suffer pain and sense of loss. And within that is the invitation to let go of all of this. To realise that even in the midst of our darkest hour, life is immortal, that spirit can never be extinguished or subjugated.

For me, in past lives, this was a totally natural exploration. The same too for others. But such an impetus - like all impulses - can so easily be distorted, especially when fueled by the passions of the masculine Ray 1 energy.

The purpose of the soul is to attain Enlightenment - right alignment and non identification within ALL circumstances. So the soul would naturally explore all dark areas into which it might get drawn and distorted. So for example, knowing our immortality and the fact that physicality is an illusion, a question arises... "to what extent can I push these boundaries and test that realisation?"

It is such a question that can inspire people to do great things; to risk their lives to demonstrate how magical and creative we are; how we can overcome the apparent limitations of our bodies and open the realm of infinite possibility. This is what inspires humanity's sportsmen, entrepreneurs and great explorers. But when distorted, the energy can become very intense, very self judging. We demand greatly of ourselves and in so doing, greatly of others.

This is a whirling cauldron of energy which so easily gets perverted into distorted explorations. When fueled by a controlling society that wishes to maintain certain foundations in place, it can lead to institutionalised inhumanity. Things are accepted as the 'norm', even the most brutal kinds of behaviour - like the industrial food production chain for example.

Chris

someone's picture

Yes, I didn't remind it, because this one was discussed in past.

You wrote in one of the comments back then that suicidal attempts and self harm are testing the immortality and the limits of this reality.

I agree, that deep in subconsciousness everybody kind of knows about immortality and inability to really hurt. It explains many things going around.

And yet, I do believe that there is also some kind of understanding that all this is not real and therefore trial to escape it, run away.

Also the 'horror' around, to me is the balancing counter-power to beauty, kindness. We judge these energies of destruction, pain, death, identify with them, we turn it to suffering, they get distorted and so does our behavior.

And yes, I agree, that all it is a part of exploration, and that is why Nature allows it. THIS is the point of all this, otherwise there is really no excuse not to us and not to 'God'. Including industrial food production.

Yesterday I was having my 'usual attacks' - I thought and what if all this voodoo is a lie? I lie to myself!! to run away from life as it is... I saw I can't kill myself properly and I had to find a way. A bubble!!! Another bubble. My mind began to lose it. And then two things happened:
1. My mind ran a line about - who cares? Reality doesn't really exist anyway, only experience.
2. I felt as if I'm not really there anymore. Something is feeling all this, but has nothing to do with me. I was in bliss and horror simultaneously.

So...

I am not after the truth, rights and wrongs...
I long ago accepted that I will never know THE truth. So joy? Be it. Horror? Be it. Love? Be it... etc

The only question occupying is who am I?? and what am I doing here? and why...

And to finish with - some animals a la Terrence Malick with insightful questions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1ICdLQMnzo

someone's picture

I think that seeing something unacceptable is just kind of maybe getting lost in mind a bit.

I believe it is a rationalization, interpretation of the more inherent response.

I see it, I feel something. This is truth!
Then mind begins to interfere - oh,it's terrible! It should not happen ever. WHY ARE PEOPLE DOING IT? This is so wrong! Cruel world!!! Poor animals!! And so on. Feeling turns to emotion.

But the feeling might be simply that:
I don't resonate with this kind of things anymore. At my new state I am not capable of doing this kind of things. - and then you have a reference - ok, THIS I AM NOT! Then who am I?

Another option:
I feel compassion, empathy - i.e. I know how it feels, I am it. Then if I identify - here's something to work on.

Or:
I feel like what's the problem? Killing is ok, feel that it is fine. Then see if I feel clear with it and if not, then maybe there is something to dig into - I might be like that, in denial.

I personally believe people are brought into universe with greater or lesser degrees of evil(just as they can be more or less innately good). And that the soul may even give birth to evil, either as an evolutionary process or through suffereing. I think many are born into the universe with the diseased stain to inflict more suffering onto another whether animal, plant or human ......

I personally find it incomprehendable to believe that another could inflict such pain onto another- in such a masochistic manner or in any way as a matter of fact. WE see it eveywhere, out there, in our smaller communities daily..... So the question is evil innate, springs to my mind??? Or a choice ? When does it become distorted as survival? Is it dormant or non existent in some more higher vibrationary beings?Are those beings on a higher vibrationary level because they are more innately good?

Chris wrote
''But you're right, this darkness is a part of humanity - a part of us. And we can't process it without confronting it, without working with it''. Seems to be a pointer
I questioned how is it really to be be enlightened through all things- when they are so dark without being sucked into a lower vibration, that makes us what to flee, change the channel??? In think Chris' point gives me good feedback here from a previous post . He wrote

''It's fine to discern brutality, it's fine to be emotive about that, but the moment we slip into judgment of it, and of non-acceptance - I mean not accepting where other humans are at - then this is the moment where we ourselves form a limiting relationship with the lower vibration, the lower harmony, the lower world and we are sucked back into it.
But if we keep working with those energies of attachment, then over time, we'll loose our limiting relationship with the lower world and we'll transition across to the higher one.
At this point something else really powerful happens. When you're continually shining the light of the higher world, then you become increasingly able to confront the lower one and break it down - we start truly transforming the lower reality''.

This is really a useful technique, to apply I think.

I think it is important to be made aware of and let it flow through and feel all this pain of anothers suffering,or ones own but to keep shining the light by changing the channel to a higher vibration. Which means I guess not supporting it (the issues in video, I refer to in earthlings)in any direct or indirect ways .

If we apart of the whole, one could argue we are also innately have good and evil in us all, to be balanced as we clearly do..... but it is the degree of evil,masochism that bothers me particulary...in this video and in our dimension that we live in.

How I see it is that we can choose, we can attune to the light or be sucked in to the lower vibrational reality and catch the disease; we have the ability to change the world and the obligation to make the world a better place, by raising our love vibration by the way we treat others, speak ,connect to higher self and watch our motivations. This starts I believe from a very small seed.

I think it is important to be made aware of what is happening and to enquire into it with full empathy and compassion, as we taste....but only taste something of anothers darkness, whether animal or huiman as their soul life experience, but not to get too sucked in to it. What I use to find is that when I started reading the papers, watching TV, my vibration lowered, which is why I don't do either now, and for many many years. I just keep up to date on the MSN news and read up what pulls me.

So really, to be ''enlightened through all things'', requires a lot changing the way we think about things, whilst trying not to be sick on the journey.

For me this video is about accepting the pure evil that can and does exist in humanity, and I say this with still a struggle of judgement and non acceptance, because if I accept it I taste it too much and try to identify with what is happening, hence I get sucked into the lower vibartion, and that is not in alighnment with my bodily system/soul path. For me, the feeling of someytimes not being in my body, I think is about sometimes being somewhere else.Its like I take aflight, and I'm off....Because the reality in this dimension is not often going well with my reality.
And when I do fully integrate it all, Ibelieve I will be adifferent person.

This video, questions not just the inhumane suffering towards animals, but the whole question of evil.....

David's picture

That is a really insightful post Chris. I have heard this before and now have a deeper understanding of it.

It seems to me that there is some sort of soul traffic jam going on. If a soul explores those darker and denser instances of separation I am guessing that it would naturally evolve through them and reconnect back with the source, and in turn experience a greater harmony with life. But from what I see that is happening, is that a lot of souls are getting stuck and going round in circles like going round and round on a roundabout, not naturally evolving just a lot of horn beeping.

David

Chris Bourne's picture

LOL! Just a lot of horn beeping!

Yes indeed. From my perspective, humanity has got caught up in a merry-go-round - except sometimes its not so merry!

We'll move through it though. I definitely feel the knots unwinding themselves.

Chris

The Other David's picture

I too can very much relate to what Yulia said. As I said before I even had pictures coming up of instances where I really enjoyed exploring these things myself in the past.

Trinity I can't explain the enjoyment in it. For me it was a lot related to the experience of control and power. To take a life gives the ego a god-like feeling. It is the egos seeming triumph over god. Another part was the attempt to control certain qualities in that way, that I was missing.

Through this experiences I can deeply undertand why somebody would kill a child for example: It is the attempt to steal the innocence of the victim. I know it sounds weird, but I really felt that in my regressions.

In other occasions it is just the exploratin of a distortion of a certain quality to learn to express it with more purity - in my case this happend a lot with Ray 1.

Chris wrote:

"For me, in this situation, the exploration buried deep within some of the behaviours of brutality, is an exploration of the whole nature of physicality: to experience apparent, absolute separation from the all-that-is; to know the quintessence of immortality through the exploration of mortality."

This basically is my view too. It is an exploration of duality. I differ from Chris in the point that in my view the universe WAS created for a purpose and that purpose is exactly to experience separation and re-unification.

In the realm of pure light Unity exists but is unexperienced. Light exists, but no experience of it. To create the experience of Gods endless possibilities, she started the game of separation. The universe and the 4D realms were created exactly to make all these experiences possible. There is no mistake in them at all. The veil of darkeness is needed to create the experience of light.

In my view now the decision to return to the light and to unity is just a sign that a souls interest in such experiences is sated, that it now wished for the experience of re-unification. There is nothing better or higher in that decision. It is a natural happening.

Depending on the interests of every soul the degree to wich we dive into and explore the possibilities of separation might vary. I tend to belive that there are more extreame souls with very big swings in duality and those more at home in one frequency-band.

I felt in my heart in my process of self-forgiving, that there is no judgment whatsoever to any experience a soul might choose to have in this universe.

And I also agree very much with what David said: There is a traffic jam. I sense a collective/planetary (and in my view orchestrated) movement into higher alignment with the true light now and this process is very challenging for many souls, who went really deep into duality. Not all can make this choice.

The Other David

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You said...

    "I differ from Chris in the point that in my view the universe WAS created for a purpose and that purpose is exactly to experience separation and re-unification."

Within myself there's been a very deep exploration of the whole meaning of purpose. What is it? Where does it come from?

I suspect there's a lot of similarity between us: having lived for a good while with no sense of higher purpose, then waking up, realising there is an organising energy that is divinely benevolent which seems purposefully designed to keep bringing us to a higher truth.

As this happened for me, I was initially left with the wonderful conclusion that everything was designed, planned, laid out for me. Everything has seemed to click wonderfully into place bringing me to ever higher realisations.

But then I asked "what is this sense of purpose?" If there is some kind of intention, where did the intention come from? It must have originated in some kind of being - a designer. In which case, who designed the designer?

Perhaps then there is a middle path? A way of understanding that embraces both the creationist idea and the spontaneous evolutionary one?

What I experience is coming from a place of pure presence. Sometimes it is clouded within the busyness of the universe, but even through that, there is now no mistaking it. It is a place of crystal clear clarity. It is so profound, so beautiful and so mystical, it simply feels like God.

In my reality, I simply know this as the source from which all has arisen and all is arising. From it, total spontaneity happens - the big bang - a flow of energy. The flow takes us out to total separation from the source, total disorganisation, total lack of universal harmony. But I don't believe it was designed. If so, by who? I believe it was totally inevitable because of the infinite nature of time and therefore possibility and therefore probability.

Then the dynamic turns tail and brings us back in again. As we ride the inner pull back to unity, the organising energy sweeps us up on boundless waves of unconditional love. No stone is left unturned, no resource held back as it shines light into those areas limiting us and holding us back. Yes this is an amazing feeling of benevolence and higher purpose.

In amongst this benevolence are higher evolved beings working to unblock blockages and ease the flow back to unity. As you well know David, they feel like God!

So to me, we may explore sense of purpose within that organising benevolent energy. It feels like purpose. Yet I also sense it as an entirely natural effect of an entirely inevitable movement of consciousness.

Chris

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I would also add David, that within the overall spontaneous dynamic, certain realities are manifested and held in place for particular 'purposes'.

Consider humanity for example. Our collective consciousness has manifested this reality for us to experience particular things - like physicality for example leading to the manipulation and control of other species we've seen in this film. So our consciousness has really engineered what is going on.

I see this happening in higher dimensions too. In this sense, to me, purpose is the natural out-picturing of a co-creative collective level of consciousness.

Chris

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It is stunning how deep this investigation went!

I do not have the experiences you have Chris. All I experienced so far led me to the conclusion that there is an intelligent organizing energy at work.

It might well be that this energy is not the source itself, but an effect of the spontaneous arising. I do not exclude that possibility.

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    The Other David wrote: "In the realm of pure light Unity exists but is unexperienced. Light exists, but no experience of it. To create the experience of Gods endless possibilities, she started the game of separation. The universe and the 4D realms were created exactly to make all these experiences possible. There is no mistake in them at all. The veil of darkeness is needed to create the experience of light."

To me, light and darkness are actually mind led interpretations of experience. I will only speak from personal experience here.

During a near death experience that I had and during the moment of my spiritual awakening the entire universe fell away from me. All that remained was 'White Light'.

This arose as all polar opposites imploded on themselves, momentarily ceasing to exist.

This experience was something BEYOND the mental construct of light-dark yin-yang up-down good-bad. It was all there was. Beyond the viel of illusion. Beyond relativity.

People 'touch' this 'White Light' experience through and beyond all things and then bring it back through human third dimensional interpretation. Some people own it with the mind and ascertain that it must be the opposite to all that is unloving and dark.

This is the human limitation. It is not dependent on darkness or experience or anything for that matter. It simply IS.

Trinity

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I don't resonate with the concept that 'God is playing a game', although I see where the idea comes from.

I observe that this thinking lends itself particularly well to justification of just about anything. It's a great way to abstain from resonsibility for our actions. It's like saying. It really doesn't matter what we do.

It may stem from the truth that we are actually beyond all of this... but I find it fascinating how truth can be manipulated to serve desire.

I appreciate your open and honest sharing about your exploration of darkness (The Other David). It doesn't sound wierd to me (although I cannot personally relate to your experience from my own).

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Trinity,

Thank you for your posts.

I actually had the "white light" thing in my comment but deleted it because I thought that would be too far out. I too think that what we call light and dark here are only two sides of the same coin and both stem from the higher light that unifies both. I have experiences with that light too, but in my experience there was still a subtle split between the experiencer and the experienced.

So my conclusion was that this experience happend inside creation still, even though on a much finer level. In my view there are many layers of creation. The big bang and what we call creation being very late and very low states of it. But that is more philosophical belive from my side and I am thankful to hear from your first hand experience.

From my side there is a good deal of mind involved as you also recognized.

I really don't try to justify anything. In fact I am not a friend at all of philosophies like Neo-Advaita, who say nothing matters, because the Absolute is enternal and untouched by whatever happens. I call this "The absolute cop-out".

For me there is an inside and an outside of the story and both have the same relevance. The human experience is holy and down here everything matters and everything has consequences. I don't say it doesn't matter what we do at all. It does.

However for me there is a higher perspective too and a big difference between taking responsibility and guilt and shame.

When I found out about my past I continually made a comittment to the universe that I am now ready to see and confront whatever I may have done and confront all the karma that comes from it. That I take responisibility for my actions, own the choices I made and am willing to take the bill. At the same time I worked to forgive myself and those who did similar things to me.

I saw clearly what I did is not in alignment with the higher truth and I made a decision deep in my heart to do all I can to move back into this alignment, but I also accepted whatever happend and accepted that this too is a part of me. There indeed is a part of me that is in a way sad about it.

(funnily writing all the above posts I also found my ego to be still proud in a way about it, it is bizarre sometimes)

Guilt was a state that separated me from that aspect of me, pushing it away and preventing me from owning it fully.

Concerning the "game": What is your view then?

The Other David

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This clips is kind of a short Version of Earthlings, just got in on FB...

http://vimeo.com/20656976

Due to its shortness, condensed and very factual style it is maybe more accessible for many.

David