Hi Everyone
I would like to ask a few questions regarding entities - I have little direct experience myself, so any advice would be very welcome.
What are the various ways that entities can attach?
Have we all had them in the past, maybe without even recognising it or do they only take hold once we light up in the fourth dimension?
Is there difference between opposing consciousness influencing us - and having an actual entity?
How do they manifest themselves and then influence us?
How do we work with removing the entity or stop it from influencing us?
I know it 'feeds' of certain things, but can it make you behave in certain way's? How do we overcome this? What is it's main purpose for attaching itself?
Is it influencing us all of the time, or only when there is a 'trigger', so too speak?
And finally, some star people carry a vibration that helps 'balance out the playing field', therefore, would the entities manifestation, feel different, or would we behave differently or know how to work with it because of this vibration?
Lot's of questions I know - exploring a recent line of enquiry!
Thank you
Harmony




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Alien life force
28 August, 2011 - 18:20 — Chris BourneHi Harmony,
It's quite a huge subject really - it's something that we've kind of touched on at Openhand at a surface level. Most of our work to date is done 'off the radar screen' so to speak. The reason is that the whole subject can be pretty intense and very surreal for most people who are really totally unaware of what's going on. I get the sense the time is coming where we'll be more visible and outspoken about what we know.
In essence there is an alien life force at large within the surrounding energy field that has been influencing and controlling humanity for many thousands of years. They had a great deal to do with the genetic engineering of 'Homo Sapiens'. Modern man was not simply the product of natural selection - an 'intervention' took place.
This alien life force is extremely evolved in many ways - at least in their ability to shape and form matter. Their general 'modus operandi' is to move to a planet, assimilate the population by genetic engineering, selective cross breeding and then 'ethnic cleansing'. Essentially they breed in controllable genetics.
But this life force - what we generally refer to as "Opposing Consciousness" - through necessity relinquished physical form and moved into the fourth dimension. In so doing, and by short circuiting the natural reincarnation process, they use 'conduits' (in this case human beings) in the 3rd dimensional realm to fulfill their self chosen purpose. They do this by thought implantation, emotional and karmic stimulation.
Basically our genetics create internal disharmony which releases energy which they assimilate in a similar way that we eat food. It just happens at a higher vibration.
In order to limit mankind's evolution, they also insert energetic implants into people's fields. So for example some people who meditate become prone to migraine attacks which can prevent them concentrating. Other implants happen around the chakras so we don't feel the chakras so clearly. The implants act as a distraction.
The agenda of this Opposing Consciousness is clearly increasing technological evolution, the complete exploitation of the planet's natural resources and ultimately, to get mankind into space travel so that other planets can be similarly plundered. Sounds surreal doesn't it? You can clearly see many of these themes repeated time and again in today's popular films - but this time the truth really is more sensational than the fiction!
The good news (as you allude to) is that Benevolent Consciousness is responding to humanity's silent inner call. The Opposition is now being confronted and tackled. I cannot reveal exactly how that is happening, just that it is happening right now in the fourth dimension.
And yes, star souls are incarnating here who carry frequencies that can negate this interference. Through the emergence of many widespread alternative healing practices, it is possible to remove the energetic implants and through the natural evolutionary process we've described in the Five Gateways, to evolve beyond the interference. This is the destiny of humanity right now. And when that is fulfilled, it will greatly weaken the Opposing Consciousness and very probably terminally.
This kind of scratches the surface and I'm aware probably raises more questions than it answers. At this stage, we prefer to go deeper into the subject on our courses and via one-on-one healing and coaching.
Chris
No need to be fearful
29 August, 2011 - 09:33 — GwenHi Chris
It feels to me that rather than being afraid of these entities - (although understandable). By acknowledging that they have influence in our field - to it's fullest extent and working to remove these energies, is a great lesson for us, so that we may grow increasingly sensitive to it's effect's on ourselves and others in future?
I feel that maybe profound self honesty is what is needed here - pure truth to 'what is'. So that we may work through our own 'stuff' - by just 'being' - in truth. We can inspire others to look harder for themselves.
Harmony
open communication
29 August, 2011 - 09:33 — GwenI would also love to hear from anyone else on their experience of this topic...
Harmony
Psychic attack
28 August, 2011 - 19:18 — Chris BourneHi Harmony,
There's a couple of issues with being absolutely open on this. The risk is it closes doors in people who are not aware of it, cannot sense or see it and are therefore highly sceptical. It's possible to evolve beyond this intervention without needing to be fully aware of what's going on.
Secondly the more attention you bring to the subject - the more consciousness - the more 'visible' you become to them. You actually attract them to you.
I wrote a general piece about dealing with psychic attack (which is the same thing) here's the key content...
"Do you ever suffer from headaches, migraines or constant streaming thoughts that you can't switch off? Well instead of reaching for the aspirin bottle or that strong cup of black coffee, have you considered you might be suffering a “psychic attack"? So what is a psychic attack and how might we deal with it? I realise that some are none too comfortable with the idea that there is a sophisticated consciousness in the surroundinng field able to drain our energy so if you're not open to that possibility, I suggest you stop reading now.
For those of us who know denial is not a river in Egypt and wish instead to embrace reality the way it really is, lets carry on!...
Before I do however, I'd like to issue a warning - I believe it is very important for us to understand and deal with the affects of opposing consciousness but it is also vitally important that we don't bring too much energy to the phenomenon and descend into mind games, fear and worry. To do so is self defeating because our fear may invite in the very energies we are seeking to counter.
So what exactly is a “psychic attack" and how does it work? Personally I've had countless experiences and so I thought I'd share with you a very recent one including how I dealt with it.
A few days ago I awoke in the middle of the night quite restless. I'd been awoken by a dream, my head was thumping and I found it impossible to get back to sleep. I began having constant streaming thoughts about all kinds of things going on in my life right now. Fortunately I was able just to watch the thoughts and not become identified with the process - this then is the most important first step. Not to lose oneself in a continual battle of trying to stop, counter or resolve the thinking but simply letting it flow.
In so doing my consciousness was not completely swallowed up in the thinking, such that I was also able to scan my body for particular feelings. Through experience, I knew exactly what to look for; maybe a tightness in the solar plexus - a sure sign of energetic attack; or perhaps a tightness in the left temple. Both of these symptoms were present so it was becoming increasingly clear that an attack was in full flow.
For an attack to really have an affect like this however, there normally needs to be a channel of entry into ones field - a route by which Opposing Consciousness finds its way in. It could come from a judgment we're holding about ourselves, others or from for example an energetic connection with someone else. So I continued to scan my body and at this point asked my higher guiding consciousness for some help.
Sure enough within seconds of asking, I began to feel a slight tightness in my right chest. So I contemplated what this might be. It didn't take long for an answer to arise - my dear mother is currently undergoing treatment for breast cancer. Unsurprisingly she is currently in a good deal of fear and worry and therefore likely herself to be under some form of attack. Although I continually cleanse my field ensuring that little or no cords of energy are attached to me, it quickly became clear that there was an energetic bridge existing between me and my mum.
"There's nothing unnatural about this at all" many energy workers might profess, but it does not serve anyone to maintain energetic ties with another no matter how close they may be. We are each whole and integral beings and ideally (in enlightenment) we relate in that way. We don't hold interdependent relationships because they hold our consciousness back.
That's not to say we don't hold profound unconditional love for another - of course we do. However, contemplate what the word "unconditional" really means. It means that I won't hold a fixed idea or judgment about you - in other words I love you so much, I allow space for your consciousness to be whatever it chooses to be without limiting it with my idea (or energy) about it. To truly love someone is to set them free in this way.
So returning to my experience, I now knew I was being attacked by Opposing Consciousness and the route into my field was through an old energetic bridge between myself and my mother. I knew this would not be just a basic and simple counter.
So I got out of bed and went to my meditation room, lit incense and candles, deepened the connecting with benevolence. Next I intensified the energy grid I've created by walking the perimeter of the room and bringing loving attention to the four corners. Following that, I took up a meditative position in the centre of the room and opened a heart connection to Archangel Michael. The bridge established, I could begin to feel that loving consciousness begin to pour in.
The next step was to cut the energetic tie between myself and my mum. Some might use visualisations to achieve this, using a sword or scissors to "cut" the energetic web. If such visualisations help build energetic intention from the depths within, then this can be a good thing. Whilst I do appreciate it may help people get in the "zone" so to speak, personally I've found it unnecessary - simple heart felt action suffices.
Having dealt with the bridge, it was then important to recognise that my mother's consciousness might suffer from the removal of the bridge so it was important to attune internal empathy for her to soften the breaking of the bridge.
Now that protection was in place and the bridge severed, I still had to deal with the Opposing Consciousness which was still present in my field - in the background I was feeling a degree of nausea and my mind was still very active. At least now I knew that when I ejected the consciousness, there would be no open channel through which it could return.
So now to deal with the consciousness itself. There are a number of ways of doing this but at least initially, I've found the most effective is to “switch off" the energy source which the consciousness is feeding off. I've found the old Shaolin technique of “becoming as nothing" the best approach for this, because then they have nowhere to strike us. In multi dimensional terms, when we expand our consciousness (by doing spiritual evolutionary work - like meditating) we begin to “light up" through multiple dimensions and therefore attract in Opposing Consciousness.
Until we are adept at living through multiple dimensions and know how to move our energies through them, it is good practice to know how to turn one's energy off in those other dimensions and the way to do that is to become well grounded in the third dimension. This harmonises well with “becoming nothing" and in fact they are much the same thing.
The technique for doing this is to scan the body identifying areas of tightness - in my case there was still the lingering feeling in my chest. So I moved my awareness to that place and centred in it. Being very clear that there was no efforting to remove it, I simply dissolved into it by becoming awesomely okay with it - not needing it to be a certain way and not judging it as pain, simply accepting it the way it was. Within moments it had completely disappeared. I did this throughout my body - let's be clear though, not all pain is removed that easily. However, what you can do with practice is to instantly let go of the need for the pain to go away - we simply remove negative association connected to pain.
Within about 30 minutes of working through my body this way, the feeling of nausea had gone, my mind was quietening and a deep sense of peace and relaxation was descending over my body. I could feel waves of unconditional love washing through me and shortly afterwards drifted off into a blissful slumber.
In conclusion, its important to state that even though the process I've described might seem quite lengthy and involved, the more we practice, the faster, slicker and more effective the approach becomes until we find it is a natural part of our beingness and effective psychic attack becomes the rarity rather than the norm."
Chris
Important message
28 August, 2011 - 19:44 — GwenA valuable message indeed!
Thank you
Harmony
It´s all a part of it, Isn't it ?
29 August, 2011 - 18:42 — MenoThank you for bringing this subject up Harmony. I think it’s very relevant because I see this "attacking" happening all around me RIGHT NOW.
And Chris, thank you for bringing this to the surface on this level! My experience is that people are also more aware of what is going nowadays than what one might think, and therefore it is perhaps good that people like you fill out the information field rather than fear-driven people who play the blame game.
I felt like sharing some personal views and experiences with you. I know that I have been attacked by these opposing forces for a very long time and from a very early stage in life. I've recently even discovered that I even carry an energetic implant. I don't know for how long I have had this in my crown chakra, but a very trustworthy person just told me straight out that this was the case.
Now I have struggled with thought-streams as far as I can remember, so I guess that’s the thought-matrix combined along with more targeted interferences.
Since my re-awakening, I've also experience that this opposing force attacks me through other people, since they not always can get directly to me. Mostly it’s through people that hold a very low vibrational state and therefore are very easy to "take control" of or rather “deceive”. I have experienced some very strange situations where people have attacked me and the work I do, and then afterwards, when finally disarmed through holding up a space for unconditional love and discernment, they them self have told me that “something flew in me” and “I don’t know why I felt such hate for you at that moment”...etc..
However, I have to say, all of this has provided me the opportunity to really learn more and go deeper into “the place of the observer”, unconditional love & non-judgmental discernment… and so on. I can truly say that I , on one level truly appreciate what I've been going through.
In general, what I have learned (mostly the hard way) and sense deep in my heart is that the existence of this Opposing life force is just a part of the greater plan.
As it seems to me, their "job" is really about increasing the intensity of the "game" by increasing the level of friction towards the flow of unconditional love and thereby increasing the level of duality/separation and hence accelerating our evolution as human beings. By doing so, we as a race, really get the opportunity to grow and truly realize and experience Unity Consciousness on a level that goes WAY beyond and above the intellectual level.
To put it in other words, it might be so that we ( at least some of us, or as it seems to me, most of us!) needed to eat the apple from the "tree of knowledge of good and bad" (separation), in order to rise above that level of consciousness and discern away what does not serve us.
An allegory is that no matter how much a parent (say God) tells its kids (Say us) what is good for them... In the end, for the kid to really, deeply understand, they need to go through and learn by them-selfs. It´s really easy for a parent to tell their kid that it’s really not a good idea to do this and that because it does not serve them... however, in most cases, the kid needs to experience the bitter taste of "wrong doing"/"Self destructive behavior" to truly realize FROM WITHING, that this or that does not serve them.
So, I see this opposing friction, only as part (an important part!) of the plan toward our next stage of evolution. What I have discovered is also that when one rises above the level of duality/separation, and understands the role of this opposing force, then one can be at peace with the friction, embrace and accept its existence and thereby disarm it/them/(from on level us!!) to a level we are less vulnerable against their attacks. I believe that if we do not do this embracing, it might feed the game of duality, and hence feed them exactly the energy that they need to get you as an individual.
So yes, this opposing force, living in the forth dimension IS treating human as its cattle since they feed them-selfs from our lower energetic vibrations, produced when we play the game of separation and therefore produce vibrations such as fear, hate, domination, destruction..etc. But at another level, they really cannot touch us if we don’t play the game of separation, OPEN OUR HEARTS and just accept their role and rather work WITH them instead of OPPOSING them. "They" are really "us". I feel that, in the end of the day, we´re all part of the creation of Great Spirit and we´re all going to end up in the same graduation party one day.
The last thing I would like to say is that I do not claim to be right about anything that I have shared here. These are just my feeling and thoughts that I felt to share with you.
here are some quotes that I find very appropriate to also share.
“Trying hard to speak and
Fighting with my weak hand
Driven to distraction
So part of the plan
When something is broken
And you try to fix it
Trying to repair it
Any way you can
I'm diving off the deep end
You become my best friend
I wanna love you
But I don't know if I can
I know something is broken
And I'm trying to fix it
Trying to repair it
Any way I can”
– Coldplay from the song X&Y: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64TDUvWF1xQ
“How long shall they kill our prophets,
While we stand aside and look?
Yes, some say it’s just a part of it:
Weve got to fulfil de book.
So Wont you help to sing
Dese songs of freedom? ”
- Bob Marley, Redemption Song : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12QZDSaBfps
Working through disharmonies
30 August, 2011 - 03:23 — Chris BourneHi Meno,
Thanks so much for your informed response. I particularly like what you said here...
"So, I see this opposing friction, only as part (an important part!) of the plan toward our next stage of evolution. What I have discovered is also that when one rises above the level of duality/separation, and understands the role of this opposing force, then one can be at peace with the friction, embrace and accept its existence and thereby disarm it/them/(from on level us!!) to a level we are less vulnerable against their attacks. I believe that if we do not do this embracing, it might feed the game of duality, and hence feed them exactly the energy that they need to get you as an individual."
Bingo! Mankind has itself created the karma of control and manipulation in the way we tried to shape the planet thousands of years ago. And also, in my knowing, the Opposing Consciousness was originally inspired by a higher dimensional distortion trying to manifest realities. So mankind drew this Opposing Consciousness as a part of their karma. And higher consciousness is bound to help work things through because in so doing, it brings a greater integration of their own understanding and knowing about working through energetic disharmonies.
Let us be clear, this Opposing Consciousness has, and is, doing some horrendous things in its control of humanity. Yes to move beyond such control is to see the bigger picture at a less dualistic point of view where the universe is working out disharmonies. We need to see this a a chance to evolve and grow.
Yet neither can we evolve simply be moving quickly past the effects that have happened internally without fully processing them. Humanity WILL have to confront its karma. It WILL have to go through the pain and turmoil in order to process out any deep seated attachments to what has happened. There is no short cutting the evolutionary process.
Some people are really beginning to go deep into their 'stuff' now and that's great news. There is however a great deal more work to be done. These are early days.
Chris
PS - the Coldplay lyrics have spoken to me very deeply on my journey. Here are a couple more...
"When I counted up my demons
Saw there was one for every day
With the good ones on my shoulders
I drove the other ones away"
Hello, Sometimes im thinking
30 August, 2011 - 11:54 — VasoHello,
Sometimes im thinking if its part of my karma to feel that there are entities around me and that unconsciously i may think its similar to not being free and thats why i feel that way.
i ve seen entities a couple of times and experienced it. i feel they are boring rather than scary now. but sometimes im afraid for no reason and having thoughts about an entity (but strong like a demon) coming on me. i know i have to face my fears so im trying insted of turning the light on to stay there and feel my heart beating slower
i was wondering whats the difference between a demon and a lower vibration entity?.
when i was a kid (7 maybe younger) i told my parents that at night i saw red eyes behind the door. i think i could see it for a long time and it kept looking me back. it was dark and i could still see them. i would say it was an alien rather than demon. i was always wondering if what i saw was real because it kind of influenced all my life. A few years after (11) my dad asked me if im sure that i saw it..i told yes and because he is paranoid and he was suspecting that my mam was cheating on him ( :/ ) he assumed it was her lover, and he kept beating her for hours. that was one of the reasons that my mam started thinking of divorcing him. i was feeling guild for what i said and responsibility till recently. Everything its connected in my life but i cant see clearly how and I always have the feeling that i try to get away and free from something.
There was always a big question mark in my mind about the red eyes. i was wondering if you know anything.i mean if what i saw was true. it doesnt mean something to me anymore but it kind of influenced everyone's life and im very curious.
Also how can someone remove an implant?? im sure there is one on my base chakra and throat. Also i can not pass energy on my left feet and when i try my muscles tremble. generally i could describe many sensations i get and things that happen. im not afraid i would say im mad about them not leaving me alone.(or me thinking that they are there and it may be my fantasy) and thats energy as well and im trying to feel nothing around the subject.
i know you may not want to give me some information about me or about that subject but when i want to learn something i just think about it all the time and if i knew the answers i would give much lesser energy to the subject.
Thanks
Vaso
The effective removal of energy implants
31 August, 2011 - 02:59 — Chris BourneHi Vaso,
There are a variety of different entities. Some call particular types 'demons' because of how they act - quite understandable really.
In terms of getting rid of an energetic implant, let's be clear what is going on here. Actually, very interestingly and powerfully, we had a real life past regression take place in the group on our facilitators course yesterday.
This particular person has traveled far and processed much of their internal baggage in a step by step process. She is through Gateway 3. In sitting with her in meditation, the karmic past life naturally kicked off because her vibration was naturally high enough and she was ready for it.
To be ready is vital. Because it can initiate quite powerfully gruesome experiences that can only really be properly integrated when we are ready.
The first thing she noticed was a pain in the heart - usually the sign of something karmic. But I could also feel something in her head so I directed attention there. This kicked off the direct experience - of being 'operated on' by alien entities and genetic material inserted which caused her entire bodily vehicles to contract and transmute. It caused excruciating pain, a degree of which was re-experienced during the regression.
Our approach at Openhand with respect to such karma (when people are ready) is to take them right into the heart of the pain. But this has to be carefully managed. Sometimes directed questions 'turn up the volume' on the experience, sometimes we calm the situation down by reminding the person it is all just an experience and they as the Seer are beyond it.
Once the past life attachments have been processed and integrated, only then can the next stage begin. The Opposing Consciousness has inserted energetic implants into most, if not all, people's fields. These are like coiled energy, often inserted around the head area. Until we are sensitive enough, they cannot properly be felt. That is their purpose. It's like a constant sounding noise that we become so used to, we stop listening to it and therefore can no longer hear it. It means we don't 'hear' the higher vibrations of our own field.
Once the karma had gone, the lady could clearly feel the implant. It was then the case of assuring her that SHE had the power to remove it HERSELF. She was then able - by the power of personal impulse - to connect with the implant and offer it upwards to benevolence. An entity in her field that was attaching to the implant went with it.
The final part to this is realising that the implant leaves an 'imprint' in the person's field. It's then simply a case of reassurance - the imprint will naturally unwind over time.
There are possibly faster routes to clearance, but at least in my view, they are much less effective. And the key is to remember that this Opposing Consciousness IS mankind's karma. It is not about short cutting the experience - it's been manifested for a purpose - to overcome the past experiences of manipulation and what that does internally.
In trying to short-cut the process of naturally walking the path step by step, people inadvertently do themselves out of valuable experiences that greatly increase not only their internal sensitivity, but also their education and future ability to help others through similar processes.
Chris
Hi Vaso I was interested to
31 August, 2011 - 03:11 — Kd1Hi Vaso
I was interested to read your post. I can’t offer any insight but I had a similar experience too when I was 7 for about a year I felt a presence in my room. I still can’t really describe it but I found that when I slept it managed to somehow get into my dreams which were just really frightening – but they didn’t have any context or anything in them I could recognise. I remember dreaming of strange moving atoms that bought deep fear. I had to sleep with my mum for a year until they passed. I have also had a silent question mark around those experiences.
Also Chris’s earlier point:
‘Secondly the more attention you bring to the subject - the more consciousness - the more 'visible' you become to them. You actually attract them to you.’
I really think that’s important. Last year I started to ask more questions around this area and probably within a couple of weeks I had two intense and strange experiences. One of them was when I was coming out of a sleep state and found myself hurtling down from what seemed high in the universe, pretty much out of control covered in sweat and very scared. I don’t know what was happening up there but think that experience came hand in hand with the attention I was giving to the subject. I tried after to sense it from a broader perspective which seemed to make it disappear. I guess it’s just part of the journey, and a nudge for us to go beyond these things?
Thanks for sharing.
Hello Chris thank you very
31 August, 2011 - 08:47 — VasoHello
Chris thank you very much for the information. An energetic implant would explain the pain in my head. i can hear that constant noise when i concentrate there. i ve even been to the doctor for some sensations i had before all that start.
From what you say If i can spot the pain and i can also feel that there is an implant that means i may be ready to get rid of it... i know it will be painful and that it may seem to be too soon but i feel ready to do it. Even if it takes a year or two or more i dont see the point in ignoring the pain i have. I know 'they' are helping me to get rid of it and the entities and that it will leave an imprint but still i prefer that option. The entities that remain attached to me are psychotic ones and not so co operative so i dont want to wait anymore.
There are many times that i question if a thought is mine and i dont want to continue doing it. I was in panic at the beginning because i felt i couldnt trust me and my judgment or feelings. Now im better of course but i dont feel like allowing anyone to put thoughts or implants anymore and certainly i dont want me feeding them with energy. It also influences me in other areas. I like meditating and i can calm my self and relax that way and deal with the infusing energies too. I cant now though and i dont want to smoke to relax or drink in order not to concentrate and feel the pain. i feel ready to go to the heart of the pain and deal with my karma too.
I know i sound angry :P and i shouldnt be. the entities are lost souls and im ok with that, they are just afraid to leave but im quite angry with the implant thing.
What exactly is the 'imprint' that remains in the field.?
Hello Kd1, i was very interested to read your post too. It wasnt our imagination after all.
I feel we are playing in a science fiction movie or something.
Thank you
31 August, 2011 - 21:35 — MenoThanks for sharing such deep insights Chris,
What a nice piece of poetry! Do you mind telling me what song it is from ? the Coldplay lyrics...
For other the parts, well yes, I'm in the middle of some serious Karma processing right now. I can truly feel the volume turning up like never before!
Deja-vu feelings, energy draining, food cravings (which is very odd), strange and sometimes very clear dreams, very fast energy re-charges, numerical signs allover, even the comment I wrote above just happened to be comment number 7777...
I'm also discovering some shadow tendencies in myself that I also have to deal with (or to look for?!find, dissolve the dissolver, calm down the efforting etc..) and everything seems to manifest now, all at the same time in the external world, both "positive" and "negative", if that distinction even is necessary. People and situations are showing up EXACTLY when they are needed. Very challenging situations just pop up all of them at the same time... It all seems to fluctuate with a much higher amplitude! Higher UPS lower LOWS, shorter in-betweens...Oh lord... It's all on the edge of getting a little overwhelming, but it somehow isn't... as for now, I feel that I can get through it and come out in one piece AND strange enough, I feel quite enthusiastic about it all :/ It seems my vibrations are hight enough since it no longer is lowered trough distorted behavioral patterns that seems to be falling away... I can do this, I know it and the signs are really helping! I feel so blessed but also slightly targeted, carefully watched but also a bit overlooked, guided but also misguided... oh and the heart vibes just pours out of my chest, comes out strong but VERY gentle... that part feels so good... other parts are less pleasant, at least in the mids of it... Enough shared for now! I only intended to ask about the song name anyway... It turned out to become much more.. well well, blessings ((♥)) from the heart space!
Clearing negative energy
1 September, 2011 - 04:10 — Chris BourneHi Vaso,
Yes I can feel that you're ready to work with and release the energy. I know you're coming on the next Way of the Heart course in October - I get the sense it would work well to complete that course first because I know it will bring a great deal of insight in dealing with distortions that create the internal environment for this energy to persist.
Once you've done that, the best thing would be for us to do a one-on-one session together (if you wish) and I could help work it through with you.
Chris
Hello Chris That would be
1 September, 2011 - 05:23 — VasoHello Chris
That would be great!! i really want to do that...
Thank you very much
Vaso
Losing me
1 September, 2011 - 19:10 — MatthiasHi Chris!
I am following Openhand only for a few months and I'm far from reading every topic and post. But after reading the forum sharings within this thread like your post "Alien life force" I feel like commenting here.
You wrote: "...the whole subject can be pretty intense and very surreal for most people who are really totally unaware of what's going on." In another article about two weeks ago you wrote something similar: "Even now as people read this, I know my frankness risks closing doors for people."
I have to tell you "Yes, it kind of does for me", and I'm not happy about it. Let me explain:
I find it certainly interesting news to read about aliens controlling humanity for thousands of years through genetic engineering. And I have never heared of energetic implants. If this was any other website I had probably long closed it for the alien invasion. But earlier this year I felt like I had been drawn to this online community. Things made sense, a lot of content in the 5Gateways movie and book made me smile from the inside. I knew there is truth in this just like I stand in front of a bookstore shelf and choose spiritual books being guided by my feelings (This is how I bought the Tao Te Ching without ever having heard of it before). So generally I cannot easily dismiss what I'm reading here. And by the way, concerning aliens I have no doubts whatsoever that our universe (3rd dimension plus) is teeming with life and lifeforms.
What really irritates me is when you write things like: "The Opposition is now being confronted and tackled.", or that Benevolent Consciousness "will greatly weaken the Opposing Consciousness and very probably terminally." In the other article you wrote "I know we are coming into a crunch period where very clearly the 'wheat will be sorted from the chaff'..., I experience what can only be described as coming into World War Three."
Honestly, when I read this I ask myself: "Am I part of the chaff?" This sounds like taken out of the bible (which I do not want to condem or anything). In the movie 5Gateways you're saying that the "one world has a future and the other does not." What I personally don't understand is this general notion of actual existing seperation and the need to "confront and tackle" something. In my truth you're always just confronting yourself in a higher meaning. There cannot be anything (wheat) being sorted from anything else (chaff). What "bad" ist there to tackle? What is to be sorted within ultimate reality? I don't get it. Is not everything ONE, equally valuable, equally meaningful? Why would you tackle the "invading aliens" and not peacefully observe and accept their "exploitation of the planet's natural resources". Don't misunderstand me, but what is the problem? Would that not serve both our species in evoulution in the long run? Is not EVERYthing part of the drama being played on an imaginery stage to actually know and experience yourself?
While writing this, I feel a like a blind man mistrusting sighted peoples' stories about the rainbow. And yes, while also enjoying your guided meditations and trying to explore my feelings and the present moment as often as I can, I'm approaching the truth beyond the veil mostly with my mind these days. So it feels somehow inappropriate for me to comment on these things among so many qualified posts. But anyway, I did. So you know at least more about the spectrum of people reading this
Matthias
Tasting the fullness of life
2 September, 2011 - 02:12 — Chris BourneHi Matthias,
Thankyou for your frank and open posting. I really appreciate your honesty
Yes I know this is a really difficult subject. We all have different perspectives on reality depending on how expanded our consciousness is and our level of vibration. If you don't see or feel much other than the 3D, then what's going on beyond that simply is not a part of your reality - I totally respect that yes, but the other dimensions ARE a living breathing part of my daily reality and the many other people who do frequently access these higher plains of consciousness (and who read this website).
And I see a quickening happening all around me. More people ARE waking up and beginning to have these wider experiences. I remember when I awoke and began to see the deeper picture, wanting to share the things I saw with people. I remember speaking of the dangers of accelerated climate change and what that could mean - few wanted to listen. I remember speaking about the destruction of our top spoils and the dangers of pesticides in supermarket food - few wanted to listen. I remember going to my local Transition Town movement long before the credit crunch and sharing with them that peak oil was not the only problem to tackle, but the imminent collapse of the financial system, but few wanted to listen. I remember talking to people about how 911 was a controlled demolition showing the wider bankruptcy and conspiracy within the higher echelons of society but few wanted to go there. Yet now there are literally thousands of people observing these 'truths' and beginning to deal with them. They ARE beginning to sort "their wheat from their chaff" - their truth from their blindness (as I meant it).
You say...
"What "bad" is there to tackle? What is to be sorted within ultimate reality? I don't get it. Is not everything ONE, equally valuable, equally meaningful?"
I often hear this 'non-dualistic' perspective from people, especially from those who have an intellectual level understanding of the eastern philosophies. What's going on here - from my perspective - is a confusing of relative and absolute truth. At an absolute level, yes we are all one. There is no 'good' or 'bad', no 'light' or 'dark'. Everything is perfect. Yet you cannot have experience at all unless there is relativity - you in relation to me, up in relation to down, hot in relation to cold.
Even in enlightenment there is pain. In fact my observation is that the more enlightened you become, the stronger the pain becomes (because you feel the karmic pain of other people too - as your own), the pain just matters to you less. Yes at one level, certain experiences don't matter, but you still FEEL them. You still live with the daily repercussions of them and they have an impact.
Some people wake up and move to a place where they feel everything is okay. There is nothing to be done. The universe is perfect. And they sit on the sidelines of life no longer jumping into the fullness of it and truly tasting the experience with every living breath. They no longer want to 'take sides' or 'stand for anything' because "everything is okay".
Yes I can 'sit on the fence of life' and watch my kids being swallowed up into the matrix of conditioned living, watch the light of their souls fragmenting and being buried under controlled 'computer game distortions'. Yes I can watch as the animals are horrendously mistreated within the industrial food chain mechanism. Yes I can watch as the forests and the fields get ploughed up to make more corporate businesses and housing estates. I can watch as the oceans become increasingly acidic, as the poles melt and as the sky gets increasingly polluted with chemtrails. Yes I can sit on the fence and watch the lives of people all around me slowly degrading due to daily junk they get sold masquerading as food. Yes I can watch as billions starve and struggle below the poverty line while the few wrecklessly squander the resources meant for the many.
What do YOU feel to do about that? What stirs YOUR passion? Where do YOU feel to take a stand? Maybe at one level - the level of the absolute - you can say that is all 'awesomely okay' (just as I do). But don't tell me - in your feeling body - you can sit totally at peace with all of this. To me that would seem like insensitivity, ignorance or denial.
We are each here in this realm of physicality for a purpose. It's where we get to live the sense of divine union through the greatest level of separation possible. Dissolve the suffering associated with separation yes, but if you dissolve the pain with awesome okayness, then you dissolve your sensitivity to the joy too. If you take away the harshness of the wet icy storm, you take away the magnificence of the hot summers day.
So yes, at one level everything is perfect. But I cannot truly know the perfection if I haven't allowed myself to fully drink in the imperfection. I cannot truly know union if I do not fully know separation. I cannot know freedom if I haven't fully tasted control. I cannot truly know God if I do not truly know myself.
So yes, my postings about the system of control I see people living in may push buttons. And as we explore more deeply where that matrix has come from, how and by what 'alien' life force it has been created, some people may want to turn away and not go there. I totally understand that. But I am not here to win votes. I do not consider myself as a leader nor a teacher. When I explore the God in me, I find a passion to confront and catalyse, to help transform for the greater good. No, I'm not here to tell people their truth - but I am here to question it. To challenge it. To get them to go deep into their feelings, to lift the veil from their eyes and find out what is really real for them.
So if I catalyse something in you, like for example the "irritation" of insensitivity, then I can rest in peace having fulfilled my purpose.
Chris
Taking responsibility for our stuff
2 September, 2011 - 05:49 — Trinity BourneWe are each responsible for our own journey.
The approach that I come from is to take personal responsibility for whatever is in our field. If we don't see or believe in entities it doesn't matter too much - it's all just energy of different vibrations anyway. You might instead just feel it as negative energy in the field. It's energy all the same, with different form to different people.
If a person does carry an 'entity' (or is just feeling intense negative energy) in their field then it is ONLY there because an internal blockage or distortion is giving it energy.
So, to working with our own 'stuff' is paramount!
Release of energy of any sort will reform unless the cause is resolved.
(Meno - great to see you on the site.)
x
Simply clear
2 September, 2011 - 08:11 — KitalaTrinity, thank you. I love the way you explain in the post "
If we don't see or believe in entities it doesn't matter too much - it's all just energy of different vibrations anyway. You might instead just feel it as negative energy in the field. It's energy all the same, with different form to different people."
When I became awake I was able to see a world outside of the matrix of conditioning and control, and to 'know' that there is a reality, and that this reality is to find my spiritual truth. That part was easy, but the journey is not. To my frustration I would do what I had always done and look outside for confirmations and signs, and then realise I should be looking inside. For example, I would have a knowing that a layer of conditioning had fallen away and my journey had reached a new milestone, but I would look for an external effect (a neon sign, angels trumpetting
). I would then get a 'duh' moment. I would know that by being aware, not on an intellectual level, that a change had happened.
I think for me one of the reasons I am part of Openhand is there is no-one saying 'here are the rules, and it is our way of no way', but to offer an environment that allows us to question and challenge ourselves. Personally, the support I get from hearing the experiences of others on their journey's helps me so much to compare, question and mirror my own experiences. There are things I see in the forums that I do not experience or understand, and sometimes my initial (conditioned) response is to dismiss them, but I find by pausing and leaving a space I can see a different interpretation or feel that there is something that resonates.
Mark
Loving it
5 September, 2011 - 11:57 — JameyHi Harmony (and everyone),
As a newcomer to the website, I wish to say hello and respond to your post about entities. Like others on this forum, I have had some bizarre experiences in that regard, and am working through some issues that arose as a result. Though it has given some profound insights and has helped me to progress, as Chris mentioned, it's probably wise not to focus too much energy in that direction.
Thank you to everyone for your valuable insights and for such a wonderful community. I am overjoyed to have found you and am looking forward to meeting you at Openhand events in the near future.
All the best.
Spot on!
2 September, 2011 - 18:07 — MenoHi Trinity , thank you, I couldn't agree more with what Kitala wrote about your post.. so spot-on, so true! Its all about frequencies for sure.
Hey Jamey, overjoyed is about exactly how I feel about being a part of this community. It's truly a bright light in the fading darkness.
what a reinforcement!
5 September, 2011 - 09:05 — RékaThank you so much for this line of conversation!
)
I've been feeling things that might be called "attacks" and going through a very speeded up karmic cleansing the last couple of years (pretty hard while taking care of three wonderful, and also "karma cleansing" kids
I especially would like to say thanks for two ideas here:
one is that though all is ONE at last count but there still is duality too...
because sometimes one can get totally involved in trying to solve things only within (which is of course of incredibel importance!). In buddhist and esp. yogic "circles" it can be actually a sign of "spiritual maturity" to understand all is one... But for me it was interesting to hear a perspective where there is a space given to what is withOUT.
I am sure after all counts All is ONE, but let us not forget, we live in 3rd dimensional DUALITY and the reason why we are here is *precisely* to experience it (and at the same time NOT forgetting "Ek Ong Kar" all is but one either).
There is a danger though I sometimes encounter these days with newly enlightened prophets who always preach about everything is in you and not outside... Yeah. I agree... but what if there is an experience in your life that shows another side?!?!
I believe both are true simultaneously...
So it was great to read these sharing from you!
The other thing is Chris, your response to Matthias is fantastic. His questions are very true and honest, I do encounter also these questions, in students I meet, I also have answers to these doubts, I really enjoyed reading your support! Great teaching, great Teacher.
Great to be here at this forum,
Going into the heart of the meatter
5 September, 2011 - 10:43 — Chris BourneThanks for the kind words of support Reka.
It is indeed a difficult subject. We've just had a very powerful facilitators course where a number of people went spontaneously into past life regressions reliving direct experiences from this 'intervention'. It confirms everything we've come to know.
Yes it is very challenging, but we ultimately need to go right into the heart of this karma if we are to clear it and progress.
Yes we are all one, but individually as souls, we each carry unique karma and there is only one person who can process that - YOU!
Chris
solarplexus
5 September, 2011 - 12:25 — AlexejDear Chris,
you wrote "maybe a tightness in the solar plexus - a sure sign of energetic attack".
This really caught me because the last couple of weeks i have this feeling of unrest and tightness in my solarplexus that doesn't seem to go away. I have the feeling it's keeping me from focussing and relaxing. It feels like dust that's keeping me from feeling clearly.
I would be grateful for any tips on how to let go of this.
Thanks,
Alexej
re: solarplexus
5 September, 2011 - 13:54 — Chris BourneHi Alexej,
Essentially I answered the approach to dealing with that kind of experience earlier in the thread...
http://www.openhandweb.org/entities_psychic_attack#comment-7775
When you come on the Five Gateways course at the end of the week, we can address it then.
Best wishes
Chris
OC: drama or just another experience?
6 September, 2011 - 09:29 — someoneIt is understandable to me why people can feel uncomfortable about these things being surfaced in this particular way, especially when creating some drama image around it, rather than just see it as a part everyday life really. It actually can be really boring
Like, oh, the floor got dirty again, gotta clean it. Will you say “No, in the absolute world the floor is clean and I don’t need to clean it?” or will you just say “Ok, I am now cleaning this floor?”. Maybe it sounds not spiritual
but it is the best example I could find.
And I can feel both approaches: the "everything is inside" approach and at the same time "there are things outside" approach. Or, in other words: the absolute and the relative ones.
So how it works for me: I just experience something
All the rest is not that important for me, like how I will call/describe it.
So here, on this site, and in other ‘places’ people have some names for it (OC, entities, demons, etc), and describe this experience in this certain way, like a “psychic attack”. And when I tell: “I have an entity”, many will know what I am talking about.
But after all it is just another experience, feeling, vision, etc. I could ask myself: is it real or is it my imagination? Well, it IS for me, I feel/see it, and there are more people who feel/see it.
So if it is more comfortable to see it in an “everything is inside me” way, then ok: I have some part of me suppressing another part of me, and that’s ok. Or, just like Trinity says, to see it as just energies. You can call it whatever feels right for you.
This is why, on the other hand, I don’t so ‘understand’ the reaction: if you experience something like this, then hey! Somebody else did or does too, and it’s great, you’re not nuts. If you don’t feel comfortable with the description, then call it whatever feels ok for you. And if you don’t experience, then there is nothing to be ‘worried about’. It is not part of your reality now, it is somebody else’s reality. And it is perfectly ok.
So the only reason I can find could invoke any resistance is trying to keep some rigid perception of how things are both for the self and about others, how they should see/feel/talk, etc, especially about spiritual people. Isn’t it a bit tight to keep this limitation of perception when there is so much to discover and learn? And another possible reason is maybe denial.
In any case, fear, resistance, inacceptance of it as somebody else’s reality, etc don’t seem to me to serve anybody and I would personally ask MYSELF why do I feel any of these when reading about it. But it’s me, ‘cause I feel that the answers are inside, just like anything else
Whack Attack
10 September, 2011 - 18:12 — holly...I really enjoyed reading the posts “Losing Me” from Matthius and “Tasting the Fullness” from Chris.
Chris, thank you for sharing your knowledge of this topic with us. It must have been a big decision to do so. It’s really amazing that you’ve taken on the task of introducing it to us and guiding us through it. Your posts are very brave and honest.
Matthius, you raised some really important issues. I liked that you were able to be very direct and that you aren’t afraid to question these important things.
I too have felt this way about the ‘wheat and chaff’ concept. When hear talk about the idea of ’the chosen ones’ - whether they be “the Children of Israel“… the “Dar al Salam” or “the wheat and the chaff” the idea doesn't sit comfortably with me. I have always believed that we are all sacred spiritual beings, but we are living as part of a mix of people who are at all different stages of the evolutionary process. So some people might seem to be sleeping, but once upon a time in previous lifetimes we ourselves were sleeping too, and it has been the result of lifetimes of experiences and learning that we are now at the stage where we are waking up… So it seems unfair to condemn people who haven’t yet reached that stage, if they haven’t yet been given those cathartic moments and awakening experiences that others have been blessed with, to have the opportunity to wake up…
This is just my own understanding, I don’t suggest it is correct. Especially as I know there are a lot of people in this online community who have a much higher knowing and understanding of the dynamics and nature of the universe than I do… But I would like to hear your thoughts.
All this stuff is really fascinating, but I know that it is too intense for me to delve into on anything more than a surface level, at the moment at least. I don’t want to bury my head in the sand, but I also know that if I were to involve myself in this knowledge too much it would be overwhelming and off-balancing. So I would like to know how I can support the work of the benevolent consciousness in my day to day life… but without engaging too much in this incredibly vast bigger picture?
I know my stance might be subject to criticism, but I’ve got way out of my depth in the past and had some very scary experiences with ‘beings’ that I haven‘t had the knowledge or guidance to deal with. So for this reason, I want to be aware and supportive but without getting too involved.
I would also like to know, are people feeling targeted by the opposing consciousness at the point when they start to ‘light up’ and align with the benevolent consciousness?
This is certainly my experience.
It’s probably not the place for joking, but I just had an amusing image of a game of “Whack Attack” where the little heads pop up (the awakened beings) and the hammer (the opposing consciousness) sees them and whacks them back down! That’s kind of what it feels like though.
Targeted or being pointed at?
10 September, 2011 - 18:48 — someoneHey, my experience:
I used to feel attacked, targeted, violated etc... It lasted as long as I saw stronger than me 'enemies' in them and didn't claim my own power and responsibility for what is going on and until I realized that it is actually my decision if they are invading or not.
After some field 'combat' practice
during Facilitators course it changed drastically.
And now it goes like this:
They are hooking me as long as I sustain my attachment they are sitting on (hooking at) and allow them. I can make them out any time, but now I don't care they are there as long as the attachment is not released. They are actually great pointers - where I have a block. Otherwise it can be rather subtle. So wher I might ignore or deny, now, when my head is all pressure and I feel their presence, I know I've got something to work on, and look at it.
But I am totally calm, don't need to make them go, it's ok. If I can't process now, I walk around with it, watching, being aware of it, until I can and then it's the matter of decision...
For example, today I had some rest from processing, so I am going around with everything, feeling all the stuff, waiting until the right moment to process it all comes
)
Had a fun day... and entity was my guest, we listened to some music, danced and all that... (I'm telling this with humor, of course)
Time to take out the trash
11 September, 2011 - 05:32 — Chris BourneYou know this might seem "Non Spiritually Correct", but we need to be real here. Take a look around you at what's going on in the world. From my perspective, there is clearly a 'parting of the waves' happening. I'm very prepared to be proved wrong, but right now I see those who are beginning to 'dive into the deep end' of their own self realisation, and there are those who appear (by their actions) to have no interest, yearning or desire to do so.
And there are also those who at the moment are just dipping their toes in and testing the temperature. Well the water is getting hot!
We are all 'chosen ones' yes, but YOU ALSO have to chose to be a 'chosen one'. There are no free rides. In my direct knowing, no one is going to ascend without making those step by step choices in daily life.
And to directly contradict some other so called 'spiritual truths' out there at the moment, in my perspective of reality, souls are most definitely NOT eternal. Souls are dissolving back into the oneness all the time. It especially happens during an ascensionary process where some souls continue to be attached to the illusionary nature of the separation - of physicality. Ever wondered what the purpose of a 'black hole' is for example? It's just like a 'galactic washing machine'. It strips all consciousness down into elementals. In my knowing, that's just one process in which a soul is dissolved.
The eternal nature of the soul comes from the choice to continue to evolve and thereby align with the naturally evolving nature of the universe.
And yes Yulia you are so right - when we have the courage to work with it, Opposing Consciousness can help us enormously. It can only stay in our field because at some level we allow it to - in which case, bringing our awareness to it can shine the light on exactly what we need to let go of next. Personally I've learned so much from this process and I'm now observing more and more people summoning the courage to do the same.
So if you're one whose still dipping your toes in the water, what will it take before you just to jump right in?
And when you do, "you'll be surprised at what you can do and how well you can do it"...
Time to take out the trash Dan!
Chris
Alright, let's get on with it then
11 September, 2011 - 13:27 — holly...Hmmm. I suppose we can debate all we like whether we like the idea of this, and whether it’s ethical or not. But it’s not going to change anything. We all still need to get on and do our spiritual work. I can see the meaning of the name Openhand better now.
opposing consiousness
18 September, 2011 - 19:07 — jodeeceeHello, and thank you for these forums. I am a long time fan, finding for the first time, the 'same' information from an entirely different approach and entirely different group of people. I was introduced to this 'healing' of self about 20 years ago. my path has been to jump in and out but never forgetting. The practice too has been sporadic. I tend to give tools/information to others without thought of the beings that will invade my crown chakra because I forget to set up space. this is most likely one reason for my many challenges. I was compelled to post because this information is vibrating in my space now. And I too experience some profound packaged information that takes time to even begin to convey, express or explain. (in fact I have drawn little pictures to help myself later unfold and understand what the package means or else I forget) You inspire because you are not afraid to speak of this, I am the same, although I use a lot of amusement in doing so, or write it into some fiction short story as I have been dong for some time, funny how closely my fiction from the past is to reality now. Meno, thank you for reminding me to see the positive in these attacks and showing me a way to dissolve some of the intensity. I want to talk about so much. I will have to choose to allow things to 'be' for now, I hope to read more of your ideas and experiences as it brings me a sense of peace and unity in my sometimes lonesome space. "There is feelings of urgency because of things manifesting rapidly in the landscape... any thoughts on this-"
Thank you,
Jodie
things manifesting in the landscape
18 September, 2011 - 19:18 — jodeeceeI apologize, Perhaps my post was sporadic, in asking for any thoughts about things manifesting in the landscape, these specifically deal with frequency. manipulating otherwise positive and healthy into negative and sick. I know I need work on several implants, I'm concerned about the ability of frequency to cause imbalance, foggy thinking, etc. Any methods for protecting our self from the effects of intense real inbound frequency from a source manifesting in the landscape. I hope this doesn't sound crazy, at least not to everyone. Heh.
Opening up
19 September, 2011 - 05:03 — Chris BourneHi Jodeecee,
Welcome to the Openhand forum
What I feel given to say is that there are no quick fixes as such. It's all about walking the path moment by moment. I believe there's a clue in what you say early in your post...
"I was introduced to this 'healing' of self about 20 years ago. my path has been to jump in and out but never forgetting."
Opposing Consciousness only persists because there's 'something' - some inner distortion - to latch onto. A place where we get tight, worried, fearful and close down.
Our approach at Openhand is to keep walking the path of the constant conscious choice and continually opening up. In so doing, we begin to especially notice when we close down and why. Paradoxically Opposing Consciousness can draw attention to these issues by intensifying the negative feeling.
By working in this way, we can process out the attachment and negative energy. Yes it takes courage and commitment, but over time the negativity does process out very effectively and we become increasingly clear - a clarity that has a powerful longevity to it. It becomes imperturbable.
Much love
Chris
Synchronistically the "Thought for the day" is chosen randomly by the web database system. Today's is...
"When the going gets tough,
the spiritually tough get going:
they soften and open up more!"
Teleconfrence
19 September, 2011 - 05:53 — jodeeceeHas Openhand ever considered doing long distance teleconference workshops?
re: teleconferences
19 September, 2011 - 07:44 — Chris BourneWe have indeed. That's something which is on our landscape. At the moment though, there are other priorities for us but we'll keep it firmly in mind.
Chris
Looking Forward
19 September, 2011 - 16:41 — jodeeceeExcellent! I'm looking forward -
Meanwhile, I'll do my best to keep separation from the sinister looking towers popping up rapidly. I have fragmented ideas stirring at the same time I have doubts more than ever about my well-being; eyesight, mental clarity and I'm agitated. Working on staying grounded and amused. This is 'some' growth period I tell ya~
B-)
Cheers!
A can of worms
28 September, 2011 - 21:01 — holly...This thread has been a bit like opening (or re-opening) a can of worms for me… but the worms are better out than in!
Chris, please can you offer any guidance on signs that may indicate the presence of an implant? A number of experiences have lead me to have strong suspicion about an implant in a specific location of my energy body. I’d like to find out if I am correct in believing these experiences to be an indication or symptom of an implant.
Were you speaking metaphorically or literally about the ‘constant sounding noise’? as it reminds me of being a child of about four, and asking my mother what was the sound I heard when it was silent…
Enormous thanks
Walking the Path
29 September, 2011 - 05:27 — Chris BourneI've come across implants in various areas of the energy body. Frequently I experience them in the head area. When we are sensitive enough it can feel like a coiled knot, with a kind of vibrating buzziness.
When you can feel it, you actually already have the power to remove it. But that must first happen without attachment to it being there. And then we must become accustomed to working with our energy body - how to move energy with the power of heart initiated intent. It comes as a kind of welling up from within. Something that deeply inspires you.
When you are ready, all you have to do is ask inwardly "what do I have to do to get rid of this?" then follow your intuition. You have to be used to surrendering to and working unconditionally with guidance. So learning to listen to your inner voice and following it. However strange what we're asked to do may seem.
But this is the whole point. It is possible to remove the implant but it is there for a purpose aswell. It's asking you right now "do you really want to walk the path?"
Chris
PS the constant noise is unlikely to be an energy implant. I'd say it's probably the 'sound' of unity consciousness. Lots of people 'hear' this when in quietness.
Thank you. With more work I
29 September, 2011 - 22:12 — holly...Thank you. With more work I am determined to do this.
Last night I dreamed about being on a very high rooftop and knocking a bag over the edge. The bag had some things in that had been very important to me, and I wanted to go down and retrieve it, but the way down was difficult and dangerous. Then I realised the stuff in the bag didn't really matter that much any more.
Then I went down some steps and there was a woman directing another woman on a particular kind of yoga technique for removing an implant which involved moving some energy from the neck out over the head.
I suppose with intention, the process will begin to reveal itself.
Removing implants
30 September, 2011 - 04:48 — Chris BourneWonderful
I'd say the 'directing woman' was you own higher self. And she's pointing towards a kind of deep consciousness bodywork to increase sensitivity - just like the Openhand movements we do.
Speaking of which, helping people remove energy implants is an important part of some of the higher Openhand course work. Just in case you felt you needed some help at any point.
Best wishes
Chris
Openhand Course work
28 November, 2011 - 01:47 — lisa anneHi Chris,
Thanks to everyone for all the awesome contributions. Very interesting thread and not easy to find this balanced information on the web on this subject.
I'm still a bit new here. Might you direct me to the course work that deals with removing energy implants So I can get an even better idea at which part of the process might be best to engage this ?
I gather that you are not in favor of having others (3rd party healers) remove them (especially prematurely before karma is fully processed) based on your remarks in this thread? I have come to some information that we may call upon other benevolent dimensional sources such as MAP? May I ask your feelings on this for implant removal? I have suffered with profound levels of depleted energy my entire life. It's really compromised my ability to function .
I also agree that ascension is a process which involves conscious choices at each and every stage so I can't imagine that anyone will be able to magically override their personal responsibilities and ascend. I do think that there will be a marginal population of those who have addressed their process and who have earned that stage of development. But I feel that for most of us that awakening from the " hall of ignorance" is just the very , very beginning. It's the "pre-Awakening" which is mentioned in the film.
I look forward to the opportunity to persue the Five Gateways process.
Warm wishes, Lisa
Army of one
4 March, 2013 - 19:13 — zacLike the mystic my path is one of direct experience.
I have never followed anything other than my intuition. The exception Chris my earthly guide and master who recallibrates me when I stray.
Iv been dragged kicking and screaming down my path (Zac didnt want this) from a dmt release provided by spirit to my recent transfiguration I feel Im going to explode now Im here. An untapped anger is churning within and without identification it certainly feels like its from whoever I truely am and is meant for this space. Does that sound right to you?
Iv connected with my past brother and we now join energys which I feel was meant.
My brother is within me but their is also another entity. It follows me externally as well, has come through my family and friends. I have come to recognise it as it reveals itself in their eyes with a flash of insanity, and a certain flavour, just as its driven out.
I am not scared anymore, I do not hide and as you taught me Chris Ive ended an internal realtionship of good vs bad. Their attempts flow through me, elaborate webs of thought, emotions and feelings, so perfectly timed I can only admire. My intuition says I got work to do in this space. Whoever I am has awoken and I dont know what they are but with my passed brother we have some gifts of our own which are long overdue.
A couple of questions if I may sorry.
How can you be certain this is awesomely okay?
How can we be certain we will evolve?
Also the orion constellation has become so significant to me its almost scares me I cant tell if its opposing or benevolent. Any thoughts?
Thanks for your assistance as always Chris.
Evolution will happen
4 March, 2013 - 19:35 — Chris BourneHi Zac,
How can you be certain this is awesomely okay? If you keep watching inside and there's no retraction or tightness, then at this stage in your evolution you can say you're awesomely okay.
If you're present with your experience and working to let go of attachments to the situations that present - by going into them - then you can be sure to evolve. It will just happen.
Orion was benevolent but was later colonised by a consciousness that was not. Just as here really.
Best wishes
Chris
Path: a hard road indeed
4 March, 2013 - 22:56 — zacI think the shock of this reality is a bit overwhelming. I wanted answers, but this! This manipulation is so well conducted and persistant, I cant believe beings would do this to us.
Have you written any books on this Chris? If not you should consider it. Not many have your knowledge and practical implementation into this time and space.
Iv printed off two of your articles.
You were right when you said the further you go the harder it gets, which seems relative to the importance to do it.
I dont think I want to go further for a while.
The original sin
5 March, 2013 - 05:42 — Chris BourneHi Zac,
Yes I am currently writing about it - a new book called "Divinicus" which will trace the convoluted human journey from the intervention of the past and into the next forward chapter.
One of the key openers for the book is considering what I call the 'original mistake'. It's closely related to what you might call the 'original sin'.
As the condensing flows of consciousness started to form the known universe, self awareness also happened. With that a rapid evolution to the point where benevolence was then able to read the flow - but a realisation needed to happen - how the influence of the observer changes the flow. By bringing too much investment and identification into reading the flow, you actually manifest and shape the flow - perhaps in a different way than was meant to be.
So now you are controlling and manifesting realities. Benevolence realised this was, well, malevolent! The thing is, at this level of consciousness, manifestation happens at the speed of thought. The thought has to create a physical event through which to experience the realisation. You could say without that it wouldn't be fully realised.
Hence you get the 'fallen angel' syndrome. An original aspect of benevolence that fell into the manifestation in order to explore and unravel the lower realisation. In this case it's all about control and manipulation. And it would seem to be a major karmic challenge of this universe.
Chris
A way forward
8 March, 2013 - 01:55 — zacThis is great Chris!
A glance at the bigger picture.
My thoughts have been manifesting events through which realisations have been experienced. Whilst realising this 3rd dimensional malevolent control and manipulation I remembered this concept of a bigger picture.
If I hold the thought of the greater experience, it is helping me to break free from my relation to this body within this smaller picture. Integrating this truth of who I am and why I am experiencing this tells me "In order to know God I must know the devil"
Unravelling a piece of this larger reality you are able to describe.
In simple terms for me it is another push towards freedom in the moment and absolute vigilance of all else, ALWAYS.
Thanks for a glance at the bigger picture Chris.
I shall enjoy reading your book!
On the shoreline
9 March, 2013 - 04:58 — zacI reached a state where I may have touched this 4th dimension. I am totally at peace with moving through this chapter now. Also well thankful for the 4D beings and the opportunity for the experience, a sci-fi adventure I can live, with their inception a possible gateway.
Anyway I have been detaching from my body, prying my spirit off from its connection, a feeling of turning around within myself, leaving. As I did this with my eyes open the world started to shift.
Instantly I was incepted with "Your hallucinating, thats it your crazy now, you pushed too far this time" but I held my space. Within my head I started to hear wind pipes playing a catchy pattern, then high pitched metallic schreaches echoeing away in a specific path, I could hear gregorian chanting. I had a feeling if I closed my eyes I was going, from within I watched as my eyes closed. The mental space I experienced I can only compare to being underwater (deep underwater), the sounds, feeling, strangness. I heard something back in my house and I pushed back towards it. I opened my eyes and the world was a jigsaw puzzle, partially unconnected, I pushed forward the pieces came together and I was back.
A few times since it happened, when I sleep I become aware however cannot open my eyes or move my body. With similar effect I can eventually break free of the state, push out of the trance and open my eyes.
Im not sure what this all means Il just go with and evaluate later.
A sensation on my back I have been aware of for about a year of two is becoming more prominent (as in its always there). Its a prickly, tingly sensation which kinda feels like its bubbling. Maybe we could discuss in may at Byron if theres a chance.
Bye for a while.
Zac : )
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My theme song for this
10 March, 2013 - 01:24 — zacPages