I was awakened by a Benevolent Guiding Presence speaking through the weave of the fabric of life. At times its connection is subtle, etheric and seemingly almost non existent. Yet at other times, it's like being surrounded by a choir of angels. I know it as a highly evolved presence steering the universe to balanced harmony in all places, what some would call 'nirvana'. It unblocks blockages so that authentic flow may resume. It is currently drawing close to help humanity in these times of powerful, but often confusing transformation. I have come to know this presence as "The Group of Nine"...
- The Group of Nine are what some would call "The Ascended Masters",
although in my knowing, they would not call themselves that,
because there is always something to be mastered,
therefore a true master would know him/herself as an eternal student.
Self Realisation
In the beginning the exchanges with this group although revelatory, were also very frustrating. It's like they'd spike something in my consciousness for me to look at - a question about some aspect of reality - but then leave it 'hanging in the air' and me with it! I knew I was being helped, but why wouldn't they answer my obvious questions?
- Then one day it dawned on me. How can we self realise if someone else is realising for us?
What's the point of being spoon fed a meal you're supposed to eat for yourself?
Yet sometimes we need pointers as to what food to eat, how to eat it,
and especially in times of great confusion, where your mouth is!
So I came to realise this is the most powerful way true benevolence works. It 'spikes' your attention to an issue in your life which is holding you back in some way - because there is some degree of 'grey area' inside which is manifesting outside. But rather than steal the 'glory' from you, rather than owning your process, it asks pertinent questions by presenting synchronicities - events you simply cannot ignore. In such instances, we're being invited to go into the confusion and unravel for ourselves our feelings about that situation. For only then, can we truly SELF realise.
And then, when the realisations have been made, it never takes the 'prize' for itself. It doesn't need our worship, it stands on no pedestal above us. Above all, it never says "you owe me for it". Indeed it never even asks for thanks...
- "A leader is best when people barely know he exists,
when his work is done, his aim fulfilled,
they will say: we did it ourselves."
Lao Tzu
The Team
It is through this very process that I have gotten to know "the Nine" or "the Team" as I affectionately now know them. My consciousness would be spiked to guiding realisations. Like the nature of channeling for example. How disempowering such activity really can be - the risk of giving up our own sense of 'soul sovereignty' in favour of something more evolved or aware than us. What the Team have shown me from the start, is that even though they are highly evolved, they too share just an aspect on truth. They - like all others - are not the fountain of absolute wisdom. They can point to inner Gateways yes, but we have to find the way through them ourselves. As they're often showing me: "there's knowing the path and walking the path, the two although related, are entirely different"...
- "Do not believe anything
because it is said by an authority,
or if it is said to come from angels,
or from Gods, or from an inspired source.
Believe it only if you have explored it
in your own heart and mind and body
and found it to be true.
Guatama Buddha
I feel blessed to be in near constant dialogue with them. But this vocabulary is by no means an exchange of clumsy words. I remember my very first sweat lodge. At some point, the extreme heat catapulted me directly into a higher realm of consciousness. I was both simultaneously in the lodge and the higher place at the same time. This higher realm, which I'd unfolded into, was a totally formless place of white light. Yet I could sense the presence of the Team all around me. It was like there was simply no need of any kind of form - they'd advanced way beyond the need for that (although I came to know they could still take form to resolve deeper realisations where necessary). And 'conversation' was a 'telepathic knowing activation'. Not the transfer of thought or ideas though, more the sparking of a movement within oneself that you then realise for yourself.
It's like striking a tuning fork and placing it next to another one. Soon the other fork will also begin to resonate but most importantly, with its OWN natural frequency. So a question may be posed "what do you think about that?" followed by a vibration that causes you to feel what you think about that. And the realisations, when they come, are experienced as a deep sense of rightness - sometimes blissful joy - but not an external projection into you. Rather it unfolds within, is then integrated and becomes a usual state of being.
The Seven Kohans
The Team have a particular responsibility for the Seven Rays of Divine Impulse. It is through these that they 'spike' one's consciousness to issues to be realised. Imagine the source of the universe as a infinite well and energy flowing from it like a constant stream of light. The light is blended as the seven rays we see in a rainbow, each a carrier of consciousness, of knowing, of realisation in some particular aspect. And our soul is a blend of these seven aspects of consciousness. Unique for each of us, our particular blend sounds a note - a "soul ray harmonic" - which makes different sounds depending on the 'wind chimes' it is currently blowing through.
- Sometimes those wind chimes get blocked up (like the human body so easily can be), in which case the soul cannot sing its heavenly tune authentically or accurately. It is then that the seven "Kohans" of the Team come into their own.
By stimulating a particular frequency, their resonance can be felt inside, the note then strengthens and re-attunes within us. We re-aquire those precious gifts so painfully lost.
Take for example the Ray 4 - that of non judgmental discernment - being able to figure out Right Action aligned with the natural universal flow of the moment. It is what some call the "Christ Consciousness" (although it is not religious in nature) which is right now spiking in the hearts of people all around the world, reminding us to connect inside ourselves and find our own truth within events and circumstances. We might not judge another, but it might also be appropriately discerning not to involve them in our lives. They might carry a vibration that limits our own, not liberates it.
So there is a "Kohan" - a highly evolved aspect of consciousness - which holds responsibility for each of the seven rays. The Kohans form seven of the nine. The number eight blends the frequencies of the seven that the Team may speak with one coherent voice and the number nine is a mirror - like a sounding board - to ensure the voice sounds correctly. So the Nine act both separately and together as one.
A case of false representation
It has been made known within me that the Team have been misunderstood and thus misrepresented throughout the eons. Humanity and other groups HAVE placed 'Gods' on pedestals and worshiped them, abandoning their own inner sense of rhyme, reason and reality. As a result, humanity has created the group karma of disempowerment. And by the universal Law of Attraction, that karma has drawn to it a disabling force we call at Openhand Opposing Consciousness. They are manifested as multi-dimensional entities acting in the field all around us and controlling humanity for its own ends.
Adolph Hitler was once quoted as saying... 'the grandest deception of all is that which is closest to the truth'. And that's just how Opposing Consciousness works. At a lower level, it has created Gods and Masters which humanity has come to worship. Right from the earliest civilisations such as the Egyptians and Sumerians, worshipping the Gods has created the 'great' religions and the atrocities that such blind 'faith' has then led mankind to.
- Today, at a slightly higher level of deception, the 'Gods' posed before us are those of materiality. Opposing Consciousness controls humanity through the implantation of an energetic thought matrix - this is how we live, what you need, want or what you should aspire to - all relatively close to true soulful characteristics. Like 'abundance' for example. It was always meant to be about the abundant inner joy of self realisation through experience - not by trying to manifest some external physical gratification. Not that we shouldn't enjoy life, just that if we attach to the material, we loose the authentic sense of the etherial.
But that is far from the limit of its deceiving capacity. Even now, amongst spiritual groups, there's still internal abandonment going on in favour of some 'great sage', some 'Archangel' or 'Ascended Master'. Acting through the field, Opposing Consciousness will even infuse people with apparently loving consciousness, a 'hook' to draw people into a needy sense of near constant bliss. Let us be real, real life is simply not always blissful!
The Team I know are of profound humility. Even with their vast knowing, they will not override or over influence someone else. They don't establish themselves as some great 'council' or absolute authority on truth. Yes they have profound insight, yet there's never a placing above or beyond. The truth speaks for itself, but sometimes it needs a little help. That is what the Group of Nine are here for. They'll rise out of the background and whisper softly in your ear, but if there's insensitivity, fixedness or closedness to a deeper exploration of your truth, they'll simply back off, fading quietly once more into the universal background.
Communing with the Team
Humanity is yearning right now for help and the Team have responded. If we can learn how to listen to the subtle inner interplay and watch the interrelated external synchronicities, then we can all speak with the Team and derive enormous benefit from the exchange. So how do we do that exactly? Here is my personal experience...
- Firstly, we must let go of the need to be anything in particular except what we really are and what we really feel to be in the moment. We must learn how to find peace with total vulnerability to the moment. We must be willing to accept that we don't know what's coming next, no matter how evolved or insightful we think we might be. We must work to become 'as nothing in it all' just as the nine have done.
- Secondly, we must allow freedom of expression to reign in our lives, learning to recognise and honour our rising truth of beingness. Yet at the same time, holding open the possibility for our truth to evolve which involves not filling the space with our truth at the expense of all and everyone else. Instead we express our truth, but then watch in the external mirror for some confrontation which invites ever deeper revelation and perfection.
- Thirdly, we must find profound self honesty. We must be watching our motivations for action with the scrutiny of the finest microscope. Why did I do that exactly? Was that my highest expression? How could I have done that better with a greater sense of personal Rightness?
- Fourthly, when we're beginning to act usually in this kind of open transparency, we may invite the Team to work with us simply by opening our hearts to them and the possibility of higher truth unfolding within and through us.
- Finally, communion with the nine will likely happen by an activation and 'spiking' of one or more of the Seven Rays of Divine Impulse. If we're open, attentive and observing, synchronistic exchanges in the outer world will reveal the ray influence we're working with and how to unravel the blockages and contractions that dampen that particular vibration of beingness.
An "open hand"
Guidance may be felt as a simple synchronistic exchange with a bird, in the lyrics of a song, the words of a friend, the metaphor in a film. Or it could be a peak experience which shatters you to the core of your being. It depends how ready we are. Their communication knows no limitation of false grandeur.
In this way, we can all open a 'bridge' to the Team, who will benevolently extend an "open hand" across it. That is their purpose. They are willingly here for us, especially now, in these monumental times of profound change.
Chris
Related posts:
- Unraveling authentic beigness...Seven Rays of Divine Impulse
- How are we helped and opposed in our unfolding?...Guiding hand Opposing hand
- Walking the Spiritual Path...The Spiritual Path mini movie
Catalyse your spiritual evolution... Openhand Courses
Comments
one foot in front of the other
15 August, 2011 - 19:54 — DavidI had read about many different spiritual "teachings", before I came across the work here, but nothing hit quite the right note for me.
I try, test and enquire every day, and I know from experience that if your willing to go there, help is always at hand, but you have to take the steps.
with love
David
Always there
16 August, 2011 - 06:17 — someoneIt is so funny nowadays...
Such confusion and disorientation, and it seems all parts of me are disintegrated and conflicting/contradicting. It is like some crazy balance act. And I feel rather discouraged, completely lost, abandoned, stuck and not moving anywhere. And it seems it is going to be like this forever. Forever stuck! GHHHAAAAAAAAAH!
But the most funny thing is that also these days all I need is connect, just something simple like ask some question, or talk or just remember and I am immediately 'there'. It works both with my higher self (then I feel this interesting sensation going through my spine, from the crown to the base) and something else, which I think is them (I just feel the energy, sometimes something lands, I can't even explain exactly how and what, but in general I become more open, spontaneous and connected to myself, and usually stuff begins to move if I allow it).
So it seems I CHOOSE to be confused in a way, to be distracted, etc etc
In this challenging period this choice seems to be very highlighted.
What do you want? This or THIS? Sounds like a simple choice ha? Not at all, not at all
All I need is choose, because on their part they are always there, my higher self and the benevolent guys...
Spontaneous choice
16 August, 2011 - 08:11 — Chris BourneI can empathise with you Yulia. I have been in many deeply confusing situations both on my own journey and in working with other people - you included
But my faith in guidance - and especially the Team - has become unwaivering. I've found that if in those especially confusing moments I ask the question "what would you have me do now?" and then watch, then something always happens.
A feeling lands or a thought or a movement of my body. The interplay has become a deftly changing and evolving language helping make sense of what's going on.
But actually I'm not looking for an intellectual understanding of the moment - that's not necessary (although it often comes too). What's necessary is to know what is Right Action?
Right Action as defined by what is aligned with the natural flow and what's my appropriate response within it. If I watch the signs and listen to my feelings, I find I have a natural aptitude for discerning Right Action.
In the beginning, it does require a good deal of trust and a kind of 'fumbling around'. But after a while you realise that your actions are having one of two effects: they either get you and someone else to confront a distorted behaviour pattern, or they provide a vehicle for a higher aspect of beingness to be expressed. And frequently (perhaps always) both things happen.
This is where working with the Team comes into its own - this is where it can most clearly be seen. It's when we begin to listen to, intuit and then align with Right Action that we find them acting through the interplay. It just becomes blindingly obvious.
So in times of confusion asking "what would you have me do now" and then responding to what you feel and then observing is going to help make sense of what's really going on under the surface of reality.
Chris
:D
16 August, 2011 - 09:40 — someoneI'm honored to be the confuser!
It means I was of some use too...
Yes, I too experience what you are describing when I am connecting, but it seems that there can be a stumbling block BEFORE asking. It is as if some part of me doesn't want to ask, doesn't want to go further (like what Lesley told in her Transfiguration sharing in the movie (2:10 part 3), but on a more subconscious subtle level).
There is a split between the part that feels yearning and the part that resists more than ever.
So what I do, for example, is making sure that I have at least two 'sessions' a day with myself. And even if I don't go too deep, then at least I confront the resistance (just sitting and watching it and the tightness arising) and connecting.
Because all the other times, especially if there are external distractions, I in a way 'willingly' get lost, and am aware of it somewhere in the background.
It is really funny because it reminds of Gateway 2, only on a deeper level - attuning back to the feelings, to the soul, to the heart. It is a bit more challenging because then there was a 'carrot', a feeling of joy, and now it is nothing hhhhh Who wants to go there?
only thing that makes it possible to go there for me is the strong yearning and growing inability to live in this lie. I can feel all the fake, it is like some foreign body sitting inside me and taking over from time to time. I feel it is not me! Brrrr
Otherwise it probably wouldn't be possible for me to go further at all.
So I use these...
A mystical Zoro
16 August, 2011 - 10:27 — Chris BourneI can understand that there might be resistance to asking the question "what would you have me do now?" To understand why is to always look for the truth at the heart of the resistance/distortion, because the soul will not let you move past it until you've integrated it.
So what is the resistance/distortion here? As always I'd say the clue lies within your own words - the soul always speaks this way
What stands out for me in your words are 'foreign body'. It reminds me of the non-duality teachings that seem so prevalent within the story of human evolution right now.
Yet the non-dualistic teachings risk leading many astray. There's a promotion of 'everything is one', 'nothing exists outside of myself'. Yes there is truth in this - in the absolute sense, at the level of the Seer.
Yet there is also relativistic truth - expressed through multiplicity of form. Without that, there could be no separation and therefore no experience at all.
So at the level of experience there IS something outside of yourself - the universe is full of form. I'd say this underlying relativistic truth has caused mankind to seek guidance from Gods and Gurus for eons.
The point is to use relativistic truth to get to absolute truth. We work with our unique soul to guide us back into a continual experience of pure presence. An external guide may point the way - and this can be invaluable - but only we can realise absolute truth - pure presence - for ourselves.
This is what the Team has come to understand so effectively. This is why their guidance is so unobtrusive and yet catalytic. In working with them, we receive guidance, but what they tend to do, is help turn the volume up on an aspect of our own soul, and then fade into the background as if they were never there. Like a mystical Zoro!
In this case, I'd say what you're being invited to work with is a deeper sense of the Ray 2. To ask for guidance but then not question too heavily immediately. Trust your surrendered sensitivity that you'll make the right choice. Then allow the more impulsive Ray 1 to carry you. But then inquire more afterwards. What was the effect there? How did my actions make me feel? What impact did they have on the field? Does that serve my higher truth?
Chris
Powerful article Chris! .
16 August, 2011 - 20:30 — Trinity BournePowerful article Chris!
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Channelled information
18 August, 2011 - 14:07 — Wendy369Hi, returning to the article's content on deception through chanelled messages...
Personally I have spent much of the last five years trawling through practically every bit of info that is said to have been channelled by an angel, archangel, ascended master or interstellar being. I guess, in the search for something I could identify with.
Right now, I'm pretty much in a position of not having felt a strong identification with any of those sources - although with each new source I came across, initially, it seemed novel, insightful and sometimes holding exciting revelations. I lost count of the times some kind of (almost manic) energy would exert a hold over me while I read and digested the material...for a while I would feel very energised and took this as a sign that the material was 'true.' However, after a week or so, I would feel that this energy didn't actually feel quite right and I would abandon the teachings of yet another online guru.
I can imagine that many people have found themelves in similar situations, and perhaps they may have never let go of the ideologies being marketed. After a while I began to wonder what was the point of my so frequently 'wasting time' with these 'teachings'. Why didn't I just realise immediately, years ago, that I was being lead up the garden path? I guess I had to be totally drawn right into them, for me to be able to be eventually discerning and listen to my heart for myself??
Chris - I liked what you drew attention to, from Hitler's quote. Many of the 'teachings' I've studied, do contain many useful attributes, or elements that do feel truthful. For this reason, it is so easy to think, 'well if this part is truthful, then it all must be.'
And I also resonated with what Yulia said, about missing the carrots!! Nowadays, without all the excitement and revalations of the latest ascended masters teaching to get me through the day, I'm guiding myself down the quiet country lanes of uneventful beingness, and trying not to look for any replacement dramas hehe!
Wendy.
Everything from nothing
18 August, 2011 - 16:34 — Chris BourneThanks for sharing Wendy - powerful experiences and realisations indeed.
I think you're so right - the allurement of the 'great sage' 'guru' or 'ascended master' is that there is so often truth in what's being said. It's when that gets presented as 'the absolute truth' wherein the problem begins. Because we each have a unique perspective on absolute truth - but it's a perspective that can only be experienced. You can point to it (we try to do that here with varying degrees of success), but ultimately it has to be experienced.
Once you try to finalise a definition for that, whatever it is you're defining disappears like a bursting bubble. Because absolute will always be beyond anything that tries to define and limit it. It has to be that way, otherwise it wouldn't be absolute. And when you define the experience of that, you make it less that what it is. You make it a poor shadow of what it was. That's how most people live - within the shadows - especially 'spiritually correct' ones like "love is all there is".
What tends to happen is that people go through a phase of not being comfortable in the space of nothingness/everythingness - in the space that precedes even love. They need something to latch onto - a great wisdom to make sense of it all... "That can't be the answer can it? Nothing?" "Surely I can't get every single answer I need from that space of emptiness which is inside of me?"
And until we surrender into this space, we have to keep manifesting the guru to make us feel comfortable, to give us a crutch to stand up on, to fill that void. And there are plenty of 'gurus' around who also subtly need the void filled.
I also love the "guiding myself down quiet country lanes of uneventful beingness". It reminds me of this great scene from "Peaceful Warrior"...
Chris
deception..?
18 August, 2011 - 16:41 — leiHi Chris
It's interesting Wendy brought up the topic of channelled information again. Actually I'd really like to get your feedback on the videos of this youtube channel. http://www.youtube.com/user/MagentaPixie2012
They are supposed to be the channelled information from a collective energy who calls themselves 'the white winged collected consciousness of 9'. Now I can see they could potentially be the distorted information from the opposing consciousness. But I have also found some of the videos to be truly soul stirring.. For example, check the two videos below..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8SnxooU5R4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RmPlH-BjVI
That's what makes me feeling a bit confused because many of the videos do seem to be positively catalytic. But if this is a deception, it would be the finest deception indeed! It's a hugely popular youtube channel for many spiritual people, many would have been led astray by it.
Interestingly, they have a few videos on twin flames too..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nChIeA8kbug
Lei
Strong health warning!
18 August, 2011 - 17:00 — Chris BourneTake the first video Lei and let me ask you what do you truly feel when you watch that? What do you feel in your heart? What goes on in your mind? What do you think about the words? Did you notice the hypnotic effect?
"The sounds of the DNA activation will bring you to us"
"The feminine energy shall bring you to us"
"We can impart these frequencies into you and you shall ground them into your waking lives"
WOW! What do you really feel about that?
This is exactly NOT the energy of the nine - of which I speak. It feels very much like it is wanting to place itself on some pedestal above.
I felt strongly to delete your posting. It doesn't feel appropriate to link to that energy from this site - I get the sense you're investigating with the emotional intellect rather than what you truly feel. I get the sense its coming from a neediness and this is exactly the issue that I spoke of in the article which is entrapping humanity.
That's why on balance I felt to keep the post on the site. But I'd say to all Openhanders who choose to watch it, it comes with a strong 'health warning'!
Chris
certainly different
18 August, 2011 - 18:55 — leiHi Chris
I knew very clearly that 'the nine' that's referred to in the videos are different from what you are talking about here. I thought it could be something completely different yet has a similar name.
It's interesting that you mentioned about the hypnotic effect. Now it's become quite clear to me that they are quite hypnotic indeed. But I'm usually difficult to be hypnotized or go into a trance. Even with meditation CDs I'm always finding it difficult to get into the meditative mode probably because of too much mind chatter and thinking going on and the lack of experience.
I have to say the images, music and the language of the videos are really quite attractive, it's very easy to be seduced into believing the message to be authentic. But in my case at least, I do feel they have been quite catalytic for me. I started watching them probably two years ago, they really opened me up to many new perspectives, i feel they've really served stepping stones for me coming to Openhand. They helped to raise lots of questions in me. I don't resonate with the video you posted above though, I feel it's too much an exaggeration (at least for me).
I'll watch the videos again to see how I truly feel about them..
Lei
synthetic light
18 August, 2011 - 20:57 — The Other DavidI agree with Chris: it feels like synthetic light to me.
There is one thing that might help discerning even more, it is really a matter of where you put your attention.
Truth
In my experience most of the better channelings contain a lot of information that feels very true for me. Of course noone can measure truth, it is just my feeling.
The thing is that there is just enough "strange stuff" in there as to slightly lead astray, just enough. The human heart is not easily deceived, we have entered a time where many people cant be misled by strange stories anymore(the mind is much easier led astray). So there has to be enough truth in it so that the human heart may not reject it straight away.
So "truth" is not a good indicator: Firstly you do not know what truth is if you are really honest, secondly it might be 95% truth and still come from a strange place.
Authenticity
As with religious fanatics, all of the channlers - and I belive most of the beings behind the channelings - are actually 100% authentic in the sense that they totally belive what they are sharing. The deception cant be inmagined in the sense of someone consciously lying at us and trying to lure us into strange contracts. We talk about beautiful souls and beings being assimilated into a structure they cant overlook. So many of these beings do belive in what they do, they might do so with good intentions. That is why even a sensitive person might feel the genuine authenticity in what someone is sharing, still it can be from a strange place.
So this isn't a good indicator either.
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So if it is true and authentic, then what is the problem and how to actually discern?
What is the problem?
One of the problems is an infusion of foreign energy into our system that then acts trough our field. It might feel to us we are bringing in our higher self and are coming into our true power, while in fact we are connected to an external source of energy. That prevents our soul from fully infusing the energy bodies and as the external energies are mostly astral/4D energies, they will very much limit us to that plane. We can't connect to the (super)-causal/5D realms, where our soul can be truly whole and liberated. At least that is my understanding.
It is not about not letting us make spiritual progress - even these energies very much want us to progress and become more powerful - but inside their structure and according to their terms.
How to discern?
The only way to discern is to really feel it in the heart. Does it feel absolutely kongruent and organic?
I like the term "organic" because it is the best pointer to my experience, for others it might be other words/qualities. It is not about love, bliss or joy, but about the inner quality of these feelings, something like: natural, organic, transparent, humble.
The true light rests in itself, it does not jump out at you, it does not preach, it does not act as a saviour. It just stands there like a mirror that only reflects truth so you may see yourself. It is very clear and open.
It may come trough a strong person with a strong "opinion", yet such a person does not take "much space" and it will surely never invade yours.
Maybe that helps
David
thanks David for your post
18 August, 2011 - 19:27 — leiHi David
I was expecting you would comment on this
I do actually feel the videos are a deliberate deception by the opposing consciousness. I remember in one video it was mentioned the nine beings are from the sixth density, but this clearly cannot be the case. But what you say about truth and authenticity truly put things in perspective. I'm glad I asked the question!
Lei
Trust in ones own feelings
18 August, 2011 - 20:26 — Chris BourneYes you make some very powerful points David - there's one key thing you said which I'd like to pick up on.
In terms of how deception and disempowerment is happening, it is NOT that people are doing it intentionally. I observe like you that most people channeling material like this believe that it's right and that they're doing it in the greater good.
The issue is that the messages get subtly distorted at a consciousness level and it's difficult to see just how misleading that can be. But I experience daily how people then build false identities in relation to those distortions which takes them away from the freedom of pure presence.
That's what we need to be careful of. It's about breaking down identity, dependency, worship and following of anything other than what we truly feel inside.
This is why it is our purpose to empower people to find their own truth and to work to trust their own feelings on what is real for them.
Chris
Aloneness
18 August, 2011 - 20:51 — someoneHey everybody,
first of all, these are the videos I was referring to back then about the Ascended Masters.
For me one of the main pointers today is do I still feel I am walking alone or am I being led?
There can be support, advice, tips, well anything, but I feel that there is always this feeling of aloneness when the field is clear.
It is me, exploring myself, connected to everything, communicating, interacting, involved, but totally and simply alone.
This feeling decays or dissapears for me when 'giving the power away'...
Being led
18 August, 2011 - 21:08 — The Other DavidYulia,
I find that quite powerful!
It really seems that synthetic light always will let you feel you are "led", "taught" or at least "helped". They tend to stress very much how much they help humanity ascend.
True light may offer help, but it is empowering and leaves you alone on your path. Even energetic help seems to come more in the form of offering a clear space in wich you can transform.
Thanks.
David
Shared reactions
18 August, 2011 - 22:14 — Wendy369Yulia - yes, I share that sense of being self contained too...although I hadn't distilled that reaction into a tangible awareness until I read your post. Thank goodness then, that I'm always a bit lairy and shy away as soon as I feel anyone or anything is trying to lead me! (I knew my innate stubborness would come in handy someday haha.)
And Chris... thank you for deciding not to censor Lei's post and links...seemed like you were coming over all parental for a moment. We students need to experience these things for ourselves, to practice the subtle art of discernment. As soon as you said we would be advised not to view it, I just had to! You're right of course - the content and delivery is rather stereotyped and superficial...but it is useful for us to experience viewing stuff like that so we can feel our reactions.
Thanks, W.
Walking with
19 August, 2011 - 04:35 — Chris BourneYes Yulia, from my perspective and in my experience I can empathise with what you're saying.
Yet when walking the path, it can sometimes FEEL like we're being led - especially when synchronicities just want to click into place. The feeling for me is of 'self containment' in a soul sense - yes completely. And when I'm in that place, it feels like a destined pathway unfolds before me. Yet I also know there is no such thing as destiny except in terms of a way of being. So I know the unfolding of my own beingness creates the path.
But the wonderful thing I've come to know, is that when there's no neediness for an answer or for help or to be led, I experience what I've come to know as the Team walking with me. I can feel them in the field around me. And I can feel rays of consciousness being activated through me. I observe that in this space, identity has been broken down and that authentic gifts of beingness are being activated. That's has a total feeling of Rightness to me.
The key thing is, when the energy is pure and truly benevolent, it never says 'do this'. To me it says "whats really going on in that particular situation now". It will help shine the spot-light on a particular aspect but then asks "how do you feel about that?"
So to me, true benevolence doesn't lead, but walks with.
Chris
Inter-dimensional War
19 August, 2011 - 05:08 — Chris BourneHi Wendy,
Forgive me if I came across a little 'paternal' as you say. Actually it's more the feeling of responsibility. It would be hard to grasp why until one is having the kind of daily inter-dimensional experiences that I'm constantly living with.
I work with many people around the world and continually share real life stories with them. Many people come onto this website and work with the information but prefer to just read and not engage. So you only see a wafer thin slice of what's going on in the world of Openhand.
In speaking to people personally, they tell me it's like living on a battlefield. I know from direct experience that souls are being lost all the time. They can end up extremely confused, mentally and emotionally. They sometimes get lost in the 'health service' and I know suicides happen frequently in the most tormented and unpleasant circumstances. Quite apart from that, there's the general malaise of souls going around and around the karmic loop without truly progressing. This is very real. It may all seem quite innocuous, gentle and loving on the web, but out there, people are loosing their lives on a daily basis. So yes, sometimes I may come across as a little direct, blunt or heavy handed, paternal even. To be frank, I don't have time, energy or resource to pussy foot around.
And speaking frankly, even though it might not sound very 'spiritually correct', I know we are coming into a crunch period where very clearly the 'wheat will be sorted from the chaff'. In living inter-dimensionally, I experience what can only be described as coming into World War Three. But this is a battle you don't see with the eyes. It's in the subtle mental, emotional and karmic interplays that are constantly going on around and through us. It's no accident that the world cinemas are currently full of 'alien invasion' films and stories on spiritual media sites too.
But the real invasion happened a long time ago. 12,000 years in my knowing. It is very sophisticated and at the highest levels very subtle. It especially targets 'light workers' because their consciousness has expanded partially into the fourth dimension where this consciousness exits. You'll see no 'space ships' as such - that in itself is quite a clever deception to mislead. That's what it does, it works to embellish and glamorise stories that lightworkers might present. They're so compelling because they're founded in truth. A perspective that could really help becomes ungrounded and surreal. The truth has now been effectively concealed behind walls of hype and disinformation.
Even now as people read this, I know my frankness risks closing doors for people. It can seem too 'other-worldly' or 'off the planet'. That's why I feel to tread carefully in the information we feel is right to be presented on Openhandweb. But yes, thanks for your encouragement, I feel it's time to begin to fully address what's really going on - from our perspective at least!
Chris
Alone with somebody
19 August, 2011 - 07:13 — someoneHi,
I was talking more about the feeling of being alone. I too feel led by the higher guidance, but it still feels I walk on my own. And sometimes I'm not sure and confused and I am asking for help or advice, but it is clear to me that the decision is mine, I am not asking for somebody else to decide or do the job for me, so again, I am 'alone'.
And I now have likeminded fellow travellers, so I am surely not alone, but still... I walk alone
This was this kind of aloneness I meant
The one in the background, the sovereignity over my path, bringing to the feeling of responsibility over myself and the feeling of aloneness.
I'll write it in wisdoms
more subtle
19 August, 2011 - 09:48 — leiHi Chris
To be honest, I felt your initial post to the videos I posted was a bit out of proportion. Then today I watched the channel again just to see how I feel. I realized you were talking about the video that was automatically playing on the channel, which is clearly very hypnotizing. But there are other ones which are a lot harder to discern. I admit that I lack of experience in discerning this sort of material, I actually want to post another video here if you don't mind. The deception is far more subtle here as it does seem to contain a great deal of truth, it would be good learning for us if you could comment on it.
Aligning to the mission of the heart - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FaoMpeypWw
Lei
To tell or not to tell...
19 August, 2011 - 10:36 — Wendy369Chris, there is nothing to forgive. Sometimes I feel an urge to apologise for my incorrigible brevity, then I realise it is part of my uniqueness and that as long I use humour with genuine good intent, it’s okay. Same for you, with your unique ‘signature’ of life purpose – we’re all bringing something different to the table. I think we’re all very grateful that you don’t ‘pussy foot’ around! In fact, while so many of us are still beguiled and bewitched by the flood of innocuous ‘blissed-outness’ pervading new age thinking...perhaps now really is a good time to encourage a wider discussion of these issues.
I know there is a lot of confusion and suffering around. I’ve worked as a professional in ‘mental health’ for most of my life – both within the NHS medical model and also as an ‘alternative’ practitioner. I’ve spent a lot of time in prisons, and secure wards, working with people suffering with both acute breakdowns and chronic depression, schizophrenia and other devastating conditions. And never, in one instance, could I ever detect a case where the cause was not rooted in some kind of spiritual struggle.
People look back on the Dark Ages - where sick people were frequently exorcised of their demons – as being archaic and ignorant. From my own experience, you can sometimes see dark energies in people. On one occasion for example, I was assessing a patient, out of whose eyes glared a most hostile presence. I could sense that this was not part of the man - it had attached to him - and it also ‘knew’ I could see it. Under the influence of this dark energy, this patient tried to harm me during the interview, but the next day the consultant decided he was fit to go home for the weekend. I had a dilemma – as a psychologist working within the traditional medical model, how could I tell the consultant psychiatrist that this patient had an evil spirit inside him, and that its intent was to get the man to kill himself? Feeling distraught, I framed my concerns within the jargon of the medical world, but as the man had not openly stated an intention to commit suicide to any member of staff, he was let out for the weekend.
I returned to the ward on the Monday morning, to find that on the Saturday, the man had in fact been admitted to A and E after being found by his wife, hanging from a rope. Most tragically, he did not survive. I had to work through a lot of guilt after that incident, thinking that I should have expressed my interpretation of the situation exactly as I saw and felt it, rather than trying to be seen as a normal medical professional and not some weirdo crank. I know it wasn’t my ‘fault’ he died, but I also know I had an opportunity to express my highest truth and perhaps did not do the best I could.
So... I guess it’s all about balance, with regard to what we encourage on these spiritual sites and forums? Do we stick to what is ‘spiritually correct,’ or do we risk being seen as a crank?
This is no simple decision, and not just for reasons of being concerned that people will be put off. If we are encouraged along the perspective of looking for the darkness lurking behind every corner, will this not lead to further vicious cycle of fear and paranoia?
What is the best way to be, right now? It is very confusing. I began working with crystals a few years ago, using programming and crystal grids. Then I started getting interested in all the Pleiadian Light Beings stuff on the internet (as they proffered lots of channelled crystal info). Then I felt I’d been lead astray, and even stopped using crystals!
I guess, Chris, that your advice is useful – to not actively look, search, or seek help and support, just to stay still and see what turns up. And with regard to how we help, or feel responsible for others who may be suffering confusion and torment, I guess, we should remember to treat every situation uniquely and attune to that heart centre guide before reacting.
Many thanks, Wendy.
Deception?
19 August, 2011 - 10:41 — The Other DavidLei,
I cant feel much in that video either, interessting. I just somehow cant really feel it or relate to it. Very similar energy as the "Abraham"-stuff.
There are quite a few channelings I really like (Pamela Kribbe for example). I know about another channeler claiming to channel "the nine", it was quite profound stuff too and I was suprised when Chris categorically said the Nine he knows would never channel. Well, I do not know.
I think it is not about getting paranoid, but always feel it out for yourself. And if you can take something from it, that is beautiful, why not? I don't think there is a need to get too afraid with these energies, but it might be helpful to watch what happens energetically, emotionally and mentally.
And as soon as it comes to drawing ernegies in trough the crown or stuff like that, I just would be very careful.
David
likely deception
19 August, 2011 - 12:23 — leiHi David
I do actually feel it's most likely to be a deception by the opposing consciousness. There are certain things I now just don't feel right about the channel. The videos contain lots of fascinating and mind-expanding theories and information, also certain truths, but on the whole they just don't seem to deliver the real good (i.e. helping people truly evolve). It's all very fascinating and colorful and channelled by a compassionate woman, yet they're very confusing, there just isn't a coherent approach that can help souls evolve. Also they seem to present certain key misleading information. For example, according to one of the videos, ascension is the merging of dimensional planes, which is clearly not the case. Many videos also talk about polarization of the souls, basically it encourages souls to either commit to the service to others or the service to the self, but both of these dogmatic paths seriously misleading. Finally, the videos also talk of timelines and predictions. In one video, the nine actually says that the timeline for the disintegration of the US is long gone. That was still a couple of years ago, but now things have gotten much worse. Then another video says that Obama is a light worker and he symbolized the victory of the collective human energy and that people shall watch his words and deeds and see this is true, but clearly it has been turning out not to be the case. So, I feel the videos are a deliberate attempt to distract
people from focusing on what's really happening. Interestingly, I've not really watched that channel much since I came cross openhand last year. Although I already knew about the deliberate deception by the OC from the exchanges happened here, I'm still not sure about that channel. The channeler appears to be genuinely compassionate and authentic, I've had a hard time conceiving how the channel could be a deliberate deception. But what you say about truth and authenticity really hit the nail on the head for me.
I've not really read much about different channeling. They all seem like some rather curious thing to me. Bear in mind, I've not been on a spiritual path for long (only since last year).
As for paranoia or fear, I'm experiencing none of these. I'm just curious and wanting to know the truth behind it.
Lei
Subtle identities
19 August, 2011 - 12:30 — Chris BourneI'd say lei if that video does it for you and that approach then explore it.
I can recognise truth in it but also distortion - subtle yes, but very misleading. There's implications of a path for example - as if it's laid out before us. I also see that there are strong implications of 'mission' - like there's something defined that we must do. But to me, mission is a way of being from which manifestation unfolds naturally. I directly observe through working with evolving people this simple confusion is currently holding many people back.
People will often 'hang around' looking for their 'mission' here. To be a "this" or a "that" and "why is it not happening?" "Why am I not being supported in what I want to do?" And without exception the log-jam can be broken simply by focusing on HOW (not what) we feel to BE right now and coming from that place. Without need of any definition, we suddenly find ourselves doing exactly what we need to do to unfold who we are. In so doing, we inspire everyone else to 'do' the same. In other words, to BE them.
They speak of "aligning the heart with the will" - as if we need to intentionally control what's going on inside. This leads again to identity - that which is efforting to do something. My observation is that if the heart actually opens to the soul - and holds that open space - then a whole array of natural characteristics shine through without anyone having to control them (perversely the very characteristics of the nine they profess to be speaking for). And yes, including will. But will is only one aspect of the soul.
Finally they say: "if your college course was in alignment with your heart and therefore your mission, then you would not have asked this question". Categorically, the nine do not speak like this. For the nine know that they cannot determine what another soul would or wouldn't do. Only OUR INDIVIDUAL soul can do that, for only it knows the choices to be made and they are choices of the moment.
Also and again the statement implies that there is a mission to do something - pre-destined. Secondly that it is not right to be questioning in the moment what we are doing when an ESSENTIAL part of the soul IS to ask IN EVERY MOMENT just what we are doing and why? This is the very characteristic of the Ray 3 (of the nine). I observe many people trying to erase the questioning aspect inside and all they create is an identity dissolving true and authentic impulse - I know it as the shadow called the "dissolver".
Such questioning is an essential aspect of moving into an enlightened state and being in an enlightened state. Only an identity removes or dissolves the questioning - it is only ego that tries to get rid of ego. In an enlightened state, questioning about the nature of reality happens constantly, it's just that there's no one to attach or identify with the questioning.
Yes it's subtle, but that's exactly where it is most deceptive. And I don't blame the person who did it. I'm sure they think they're coming from a place of benevolence. One thing is for certain, in my reality, such guidance is NOT coming from the Group of Nine. It is not even enlightened.
Chris
Re: To tell or not to tell...
19 August, 2011 - 12:42 — Trinity BourneWendy,
I enjoyed reading your post. Thank you for sharing. I feel a wonderful bridging of energies within you that harness the spiritual, yet in a grounded way. You obviously have a deep sensitivity that spans beyond 'ordinary' perception.
I have found that there are times to share and times not to. As you say - every situation is unique, so it's a question of what does each moment invite.
Trinity
x
the difference
19 August, 2011 - 14:20 — leiYes Chris, I see the qualitative difference between looking at it from a mind-led perspective and an enlightened perspective. There's really no point in channeling such a 'higher dimensional wisdom', any relatively heart aligned human can offer an advice like that.
It's interesting to me you'd pick out the specific words and sentences and comment on them - something I'd never do, I guess I'm just not analytical enough!
Lei
Spiking awareness
19 August, 2011 - 14:41 — Chris BourneThat's exactly how the 9 work with me Lei. They spike my awareness to the energy of words (amongst other things) and then 'ask' me "how do you feel about that?"
Chris
Direct experience
19 August, 2011 - 15:02 — Chris BourneHi Wendy,
I'd like to pick up on a couple of things you said in case they got lost along the way...
"I know there is a lot of confusion and suffering around. I’ve worked as a professional in ‘mental health’ for most of my life – both within the NHS medical model and also as an ‘alternative’ practitioner. I’ve spent a lot of time in prisons, and secure wards, working with people suffering with both acute breakdowns and chronic depression, schizophrenia and other devastating conditions. And never, in one instance, could I ever detect a case where the cause was not rooted in some kind of spiritual struggle."
This is said from direct experience and I greatly respect it. During my journey of unfolding I was sectioned twice in a psychiatric hospital against my will. Once upon awakening and once upon Transfiguration. The people around me had no understanding or empathy - no framework - for what I was experiencing.
I found myself drugged to the eye-balls and strapped to a hospital bed. I'm not sure it's possible to imagine just what that feels like unless you've experienced it. The first time caused me to drop out of the awakened state, but in the second, fortunately the soul integration was too strong for it to dissipate. And I took the daily cocktail of prescribed drugs under my tongue and spat them out in the loo a few minutes later.
The other inmates were not so 'lucky'. It induced a kind of daily zombie like state. Yet as the drugs wore off, they'd be able to converse and share their experiences - often ones that you'd be reading about on spiritual sites on facebook and the internet in general. Like you, I could not find one case where the 'illness' prescribed was not founded in some kind of inner consciousness shift which were challenging to integrate.
You go onto mention...
"On one occasion for example, I was assessing a patient, out of whose eyes glared a most hostile presence. I could sense that this was not part of the man - it had attached to him - and it also ‘knew’ I could see it. Under the influence of this dark energy, this patient tried to harm me during the interview, but the next day the consultant decided he was fit to go home for the weekend. I had a dilemma – as a psychologist working within the traditional medical model, how could I tell the consultant psychiatrist that this patient had an evil spirit inside him, and that its intent was to get the man to kill himself? Feeling distraught, I framed my concerns within the jargon of the medical world, but as the man had not openly stated an intention to commit suicide to any member of staff, he was let out for the weekend. I returned to the ward on the Monday morning, to find that on the Saturday, the man had in fact been admitted to A and E after being found by his wife, hanging from a rope. Most tragically, he did not survive."
And this is exactly why we need to be careful with the energy we 'band' around. I too have worked with people who got side-tracked, had energies attach to them only to find life extremely challenging. And yes, I've seen people commit suicide because of that. It really is hard to believe how deceptive this 'Opposing Consciousness' can be until you've actually consciously confronted and worked with it.
Chris
Rigorous exploration of the truth
20 August, 2011 - 05:27 — Chris BourneI felt to pick up on something else mentioned a little earlier in the thread.
The Other David said...
"I was suprised when Chris categorically said the Nine he knows would never channel. Well, I do not know."
I'd say more direct experience is necessary then. When someone gives over their own soul sovereignty to a 'foreign body', it becomes very challenging to know what is yours and what isn't. We saw that clearly happen this year at Cae Mabon (and you were there watching it David!). A surreptitious consciousness may then influence an entire group and limit their evolution by the direct intervention of deeper soul infusion.
And I welcome Wendy's sharing above which shows the mortal danger of allowing a foreign body to act within (not that in that particular example the person in question had any conscious choice).
Besides the fact that it can be subtly destabilising to the extent it can lead to experiences like schizophrenia and psychosis, it becomes practically impossible to know whether you realised something for yourself or if it was done for you. It steals the experience from you.
Take a look at the story of George Kavassilas for example (which you've quoted a few times David).
So no, absolutely no need for "fear or paranoia" as you put it, but a very healthy degree of scepticism and a very rigorous exploration of the truth.
Chris
Channeling
20 August, 2011 - 12:30 — The Other DavidChris,
I totally agree to what you say about channeling in the sense of allowing another being to take over your (energy-)body or act through it.
But I did have experiences that almost felt like channeling to me (maybe my higher self?). I could do that with speaking and with automatic writing - answers and insights would just come out of my mouth or onto the paper. I still have it sometimes when speaking with friends, working 1:1 with them: insigts just come out of my mouth, sometimes very much to my suprise of what I share. I just speak without thinking.
This always feels very "myself", I did never experience any other beings as such, but I did feel inspired by something beyond my persona. And it did feel as if I am just a "channel" through wich this comes.
But yes: Never did any "being" speak to or through me - so it is not channeling in the common use of the word. So maybe this is something like channeling yourself through bypassing the mind?
David
Enlightened state
20 August, 2011 - 13:17 — Chris BourneWhat you describe David sounds quite straightforward to me. It feels like an enlightened state where actions are arising spontaneously from the Seer. But this is definitely not channeling, which is where we are being a vessel to allow another entity to speak through us or we are speaking on behalf of another entity.
Chris
Enlightend state/ perspective
20 August, 2011 - 14:04 — The Other DavidChris,
that is very interessting. Even at the danger of going off-topivc: I do have the experience of the Seer and sometimes there is just that. Bust most of the time I still look on life from the perspective of a person.
The experience I describe above is seen from the place of persona - for wich it feels like almost something else would speak (wich is why I called it channeling-like). Clearly n my experience there is nobody there/no identity doing the speaking/writing, or manipulating it.
But there still is an identified person to wich this "happens" and sometimes there is even questioning going on while it happens - like I said it is sometimes suprising and there are moments like "Wow, that was great, did I say that?" if you get what I mean.
My question: I always imagined all identification to drop away completely, leaving just the flow, I have had glimpses of that. Or is that a naive image of enlightenment and there is always a "Me" that stays - as a self-reference mechanism inside the body-mind?
It maybe links to what you have stated earlier in this thread:
I observe many people trying to erase the questioning aspect inside and all they create is an identity dissolving true and authentic impulse - I know it as the shadow called the "dissolver".
Such questioning is an essential aspect of moving into an enlightened state and being in an enlightened state. Only an identity removes or dissolves the questioning - it is only ego that tries to get rid of ego. In an enlightened state, questioning about the nature of reality happens constantly, it's just that there's no one to attach or identify with the questioning.
I do not know if this is the place for such a personal question, (so feel free to remove it if not) but it felt like it might be interessting for others too.
David
The ultimate journey of the soul
21 August, 2011 - 07:37 — Chris BourneHi David,
You ask a very pertinent question which has two levels of answer depending on where one is at - moving INTO enlightenment or moving ON from enlightenment...
"My question: I always imagined all identification to drop away completely, leaving just the flow, I have had glimpses of that. Or is that a naive image of enlightenment and there is always a "Me" that stays - as a self-reference mechanism inside the body-mind?"
Yes, moving into enlightenment all identification falls away until there is pure flow. Like there is literally "no one in here". There is crystal clear clarity. No person. No identity. Action simply happens. "I am" becomes "there is".
Then there's moving on from enlightenment. In the place of complete non-identification, the soul ascends higher and higher through the dimensions gaining ever deeper realisation and experience of pure oneness yet through ever subtler degrees of separation. This continues until it reaches the source from where it originally came.
For me this is experienced as what I can only describe as an 'infinite well' which the 11th Dimension forms around. The 11th Dimension is like the boundary of the well. It is the defining line of form - the finest edge of unity consciousness - before form ceases to exist.
Now some souls reach that point and then dissolve into the well - because there is no choice to stay. So 'dissolution' happens. But some souls have reached that place and there is neither a choice to stay nor to go. In this space they may 'hear' the calling of other souls for help - where they have become lost within the illusion somewhere back in the lower dimensions.
In order to remain, so that help might be given, a subtle identity is take on. It is more like the holding of a fluid consciousness landscape around oneself that holds things in place - dissolution does not happen. To me, this is the ultimate journey of the soul. In my reality, it is how 'The Group of Nine' came to be.
Chris
questions on the nine
21 August, 2011 - 08:41 — leiHi Chris
Just to be clear: Are the Nine beings on the 11th dimension separate souls? It's hard to imagine this as they seem to be everywhere working with everyone simultaneously. When you rose up to the 11th dimension, were you able to experience and see the world through their perspective? If so, is there a kind of merging happening between your soul and theirs?
Finally you say..
Now some souls reach that point and then dissolve into the well. There is neither a choice to stay nor to go. So 'dissolution' happens. But some souls have reached that place and still 'hear' the calling of other souls for help - where they have become lost within the illusion somewhere back in the lower dimensions.
I would imagine the vast majority of souls who reached the place would dissolve back into the source as there has been only nine left. Isn't it a tragic thing that the souls would dissolve after eons of evolution and having reached such a profound level of realization
Also in my understanding, it seems that the higher dimension you go the less souls there are.
Lei
Dissolution into the whole
21 August, 2011 - 08:59 — someoneIf I may have my take on this one...
As I see it, this is the identity, the ego that cares about being dissolved, it tries to keep its form, some form, any form, but it has to have one.
But when there is no identity, you anyway feel yourself as a part of the whole, there is nothing you want/need/prefer. So in this case you of course don't mind to be dissolved. And the reason some don't dissolve, like Chris says is not for their own's sake, but as a 'pull to answer the call'.
Another thing I see is that there will be a complete dissolution and returning back into the whole, which really never split. The separation is only one part of the picture. And the other part is that it was, is and always will be whole.
And it is actually all about this one whole evolving and experiencing itself through the multiplicity of forms, through me, through you, through everything.
So our individual evolution is only part of the process, it is one of the stages. After we reintegrate back into one, the system will keep evolving as a whole.
Authenticity
21 August, 2011 - 08:59 — Chris BourneHi Yulia - yes I'd say you're connecting to source through the sharing you gave.
And Lei, some of your questions feel to me like they are coming from the intellect and I choose not to answer those.
The nine are able to act as one and/or individually. They themselves are not working with everyone, everywhere simultaneously. The Seven Rays of Divine Impulse are working with everyone, everywhere simultaneously - that's what most people feel (even without knowing what is going on).
Sometimes particular frequencies will be enhanced by the nine - like the Christ Consciousness for example and indeed this can touch many.
Sometimes souls have come here for a specific purpose, and they will likely develop a close relationship with the nine. They may or may not know at this level that it's even happening.
One thing is for certain. The nine that I know do not channel for the very reasons I've explained. But there are surreptitious groups acting in the field around us that do purport to be the nine. If the guidance one gets is kind of like 'spoon-feeding' as in the video links you posted, that's a very good indication that its not coming from the nine.
Chris
answered
21 August, 2011 - 09:28 — leiThe separation is only one part of the picture. And the other part is that it was, is and always will be whole.
And it is actually all about this one whole evolving and experiencing itself through the multiplicity of forms, through me, through you, through everything.
So our individual evolution is only part of the process, it is one of the stages. After we reintegrate back into one, the system will keep evolving as a whole.
Yes Yulia, that answers my soul's question. Your Yulianess shines like a beacon!
The nine are able to act as one and/or individually. They themselves are not working with everyone, everywhere simultaneously. The Seven Rays of Divine Impulse are working with everyone, everywhere simultaneously - that's what most people feel (even without knowing what is going on).
Sometimes particular frequencies will be enhanced by the nine - like the Christ Consciousness for example and indeed this can touch many.
Spiking awareness - the way how the nine works, now I see what you meant.
Council of Nine - same thing?
29 September, 2011 - 15:36 — holly...When I saw this article my mind instantly jumped to 'The Council of Nine' in the book 'The Only Planet of Choice'.
However the book is based on material channelled through Phyllis Schlemmer.
Chris you mentioned the Team you are engaging with do not communicate via channelling.
I feel cautious about channelled material, but I found the content of this book to be benevolent. The messages of the Council of Nine seemed to be all about peace, love, unity and non-violence.
Are you able to comment on this book please?
Thank you very much
Realising ones own truth
29 September, 2011 - 16:17 — Chris BourneYes I've read the book actually. And no this is not the same thing, although I know they proport to be. Yes I agree, there was some good sentiment in the book, but personally I found it to be quite distorted. For example identities are given to the nine and really they are beyond such (at least as I know them). And as I've said before, the nine that I know do not channel - because words are a pretty clumsy way of communicating.
I sense a strong concern with the nine that in the past, connections have been distorted and there's a yearning for this to be minimised. I find frequently energy is exchanged through parable, metaphor, stories and reflections. So insightful perspective is offered but very much the invitation to make up ones own mind - to realise one's own truth.
Chris
Positivity or reality?
29 September, 2011 - 19:20 — someoneHi, I felt something about these words, for some reason: "all about peace, love, unity and non-violence", "non-violence" in particular. In this combination it feels to me like some "spiritual positivity", maybe it's just me.
I feel that my own path till now is not "all about peace, love, unity and non-violence", but it is my own individual feeling. It is about actually experiencing the multi-faceted existence, all possible forms and expressions, but while observing or through non-identified presence.
Or, in other words, it is about finding clear space in all possible states I might only experience, including violence. Then through this experience, if I lose the identification, I might feel peace, love or/and unity, but it is not actually some specific feelings, it's just a clear state, which is fluctuating in its "moods and colors", and which you can barely define. This is what's happening to me. So to me it feels rather strange, such well-defined things, presented as something 'good', or preferable.
Also, somehow the farther I go, the more intense non-unity, non-love, etc, are experienced, but then also ever greater degrees of openness after the acceptance of all those things.
The way I see it - it's all about capacity. I actually can't experience only one pole, I experience the opposite one as well, it is about "how much I can take", how much I can open, and then experience both expressions. And to me, the thing is to experience one extreme, then the other, and find this golden middle line between them - and this is exactly the ZERO, nothing, and then I can experience any of these extremes, but from this zero-point, watch it from there, without leaving the center.
I just felt to say it, just in case, am not sure why and what for
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It dawned
30 November, 2012 - 10:59 — Mike"Then one day it dawned on me. How can we self realise if someone else is realising for us"?
This line really struck me as I have been thinking about this idea a lot. Looking for answers from outside when they are all inside. I wrote a song once with a line "the joys of life hidden where you can't see". As I write I now understand my own words in a different way than when I wrote them! Openhand is a signpost but it doesn't hold the answers and it in no way claims to but I think we cling to something for the answers and get frustrated when they don't appear. We simply have them and have to face the fact and trust in the guidance of "what would you have me do now". Beautiful! Lots to re-read in this one. Love.
Wow!
1 December, 2012 - 02:00 — MargaretChris,
Wow! This article is been a great revelation to me.
You said: “They'll rise out of the background and whisper softly in your ear, but if there's insensitivity, fixedness or closedness to a deeper exploration of your truth, they'll simply back off, fading quietly once more into the universal background.”
I’ve known this (or similar) energy for some time and often wondered: “Who is talking...?”. The “voice” is so soft that it easily drowns in my mind’s chatter. What made me notice it initially was the .... gentleness that was in a substantial contrast with the “other”, categorical, and one dimensional messages I’ve been getting. To me this energy sounds like this: “Well, there is another course of action you might like to consider. It is perfectly fine if you choose not to go that way.”.
You said: “Acting through the field, Opposing Consciousness will even infuse people with apparently loving consciousness, a 'hook' to draw people into a needy sense of near constant bliss. Let us be real, real life is simply not always blissful!”
Another Wow! I think, additionally to this great feeling of temporary bliss, I have been attracted to various gurus as following someone else 1-Requires less effort (information is pre-chewed so I do not need to explore my own feelings as long as we agree on the surface) , 2-Offers diffused responsibility (there is always an option to blame the guru for my lack of progress). This has not invited a long term satisfaction to my life, so I dropped it all.
I've been watching the distracting/opposing consciousness in my life since you posted an article about it few months ago. I feel a pull of addictive urges as soon as I’m getting more balanced. And by "more balanced" I mean misaligned with the "Matrix". Even a slight misalignment results in a shift in viewing of the current reality. It's like watching a movie and seeing that the actors are not the real characters. Odd, but very calming state of mind.
Funny enough, as soon as I read this article I had a feeling of balance sipping into my life, a kind of quiet moment of truth (sorry, I do not know a better way to describe it) :- ). I really wanted to share my own feedback as well as the gratitude to you and all other contributors here.
Immediately some distracting urges (I’m hooked on carbs and world news. Both make me feel sluggish and drained) started to kick in. I kind of laughed and decided to follow them to see what happens. I was still set on posting my feedback with a slight time delay. I knew 100% these were the familiar opposing distractions as I’ve just stepped on something REAL. 15 min later I opened the browser on the Openhand site again. The back of my head began to hurt sharply. I remembered it was the location of the energetic blockage I possibly released during a conversation with Chris one day. As I realized that, the pain stopped abruptly! Immediately after, the phone rang.
It was an automated message from my son’s school stating that he did not show up for classes today. Enough to get me into a slight frenzy. Except the school has never called so late in the afternoon. Their automated absence line kicks in first thing in the morning. I tried calling, but could not reach anyone (including my husband)... Odd.
I have finally gotten to type this message. I’d like to thank you all for sharing and apologize for this perhaps too detailed report. I find it important to share all the above.
Take care!
Margaret
PS My husband just came back and his cell has no sign of me calling 40 min ago.
A rock of truth
1 December, 2012 - 07:06 — Chris BourneHi Margaret,
Thanks so much for sharing. I especially resonated with this line...
"Funny enough, as soon as I read this article I had a feeling of balance sipping into my life, a kind of quiet moment of truth."
Yes the Nine have that affect with me too. It's like that solid, yet humble platform of truth that when aligned with, will flow into ones life.
There's another way they'll work with you, which I haven't written about here so far. It's a more advanced technique and they'll only tend to work it if someone is truly surrendering to the path of self realisation.
They'll actually mimmick opposing energies. It's like accentuating the distortion within oneself, to through one off balance, so you can see the distortion more clearly.
Whether or not they were involved in what you describe above, it would seem like you were given a 'lesson' in some attachments.
If someone is truly seeking the truth, and not just playing at it, working with the Nine will accelerate ones path beyond measure.
For me, the Nine are like a rock of truth. Yet they never put themselves above. When I'm stood squarely in my own reality, they slip quietly into the background. Awesome!
Chris
Blind spots
1 December, 2012 - 21:57 — MargaretThank you for your feedback, Chris.
There is another thought that really struck me in your article: Relying heavily on “Gods” and superior entities is in truth disempowering. We end up turning the blind eye on the “inner sense of rhyme”. I find it quite challenging to turn back inside after being brought up and living a reality where I constantly rely on a “savior”. It is a huge change for me. I feel like the effort is similar to relearning a language. I sense this is the reason why I have developed many blind spots here and there and have hard time seeing my own lessons and attachments.
Nevertheless I was faced with a rather insignificant situation last night, a situation which by default required support of a “superior entity”. I decided to try the new approach and go inside instead. The first feeling that surfaced was fear “because I’m too weak”. I stayed with it, even thought it felt slightly uncomfortable. It did feel like I spoke a foreign language for the first time.
Thanks again for your articles. Perhaps you can one day put them together in a form of a book.
Margaret
The inner 'saviour'
6 December, 2012 - 03:50 — Chris BourneHi Margaret,
It's wonderful that you are finding the courage to go with your own inner 'saviour'. It's an important step - the subtle temptation to devolve responsibility to someone or something outside of oneself can be quite influential.
But looking into the external mirror is also necessary. It provides the feedback loop to build a higher truth or dissipate a lower one. So that's where I find communion with the Nine so beneficial.
And yes, one day I'm sure I'll gather them together into another book - in fact I've already begun writing.
Thanks for the support!
Chris
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