Hi Pieter,

I wrote about remembering past lives here last year. It gives quite a detailed explaination from first hand experience - you can read it here:
http://www.openhandweb.org/11_11_09_remembering_past_lives

For me I have clear memories and visions. I've had many occassions of being brought back to previous lifetimes and reliving events. This happens to a person spontaneously when they are at a stage in the journey where they are able to assimilate whatever is arising. I am happy to share more - I have to pop out now though.

With Love
Trinity
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Hi Pieter,

Thanks for sharing. Your story has fascinating parallels to my own.

A couple of years before I awoke, I had a profound pre-Awakening where I experienced the activation of the Christ Consciousness within my heart. This elevated me to an immediate experience of multi-dimensionality. I found I could think, feel and intuit on multiple plains of reality.

Those around me found this extremely difficult to understand and relate to. It resulted in me too being admitted to a psychiatric hospital in Germany where I was administered with the kind of drugs you describe.

Over the course of the week in which I was interned, the drugs caused the experience to contract leaving me back where I began except feeling quite paranoid and a bit depressed.

On the final night before my release, I had a prophetic lucid dream. Jesus (and I'm not religious but there was no mistaking him) was with me. He was watching me sliding off a cliff edge trying to help but unable to.

I was told that I would go back to sleep for at least two years after which I would wake up again. The Christ Consciousness would come calling once more. This is exactly what happened, leading to my awakening and my Journey through the other Four Gateways.

It was absolutely clear to me that the drugs administered caused my consciousness to contract and identify more with the lower physical plane. They retarded my spiritual awakening.

The reason people don't and can't experience past lives is because their vibration is too low to touch that higher frequency body where the past life memories are stored.

We have seven bodily vehicles of expression (see... Being Human), most people are only able to access the lower two or three: the physical body, the emotional body and subconscious (lower) mind.

These vehicles rise sequentially in energy. The denser and 'louder' our experience in the lower vehicles, the more our consciousness is drawn into them.

Hence if we lead a matrixy lifestyle easting dense foods, with a toxic, electro smog environment, then the physical body is filled with 'excitotoxins'. It lowers our vibration and pulls our consciousness into this very limiting plane. That's exactly what the drugs you're taking do also.

The causal body is 'above' subconscious mind in terms of energetic frequency. So we have to actually purify the lower three bodily vehicles before we can touch this higher vibration.

In my experience, that's why most people in society don't directly experience past life memories.

With love and best wishes

Chris

Still critical but thank you anyway...

"I found I could think, feel and intuit on multiple plains of reality". Exactly what happened...

I will now go read the links to investigate the legitimacy of my criticism . No, it's just that I feel that my past lives aren't that important to me at this stage, and that this life is more than enough for the time being. I don't agree that the medication I take is holding me back though. Sure, I'd like myself without medication, but take into consideration that I already quit several other types of medication and that I have to take it step by step and that it's actually a good thing to keep taking the medication for this moment.

Hmmm reading this back I find myself sounding like a psychiatrist telling his 'patient' to keep taking his medication. The fact that I'm aware of that is a good thing I think.

Lately I feel the strong urge to do a body detox, including leaving the medication... it's just that a lot of people in my environment won't agree on that, so I will be having a hard time...

I will keep taking my HIV medication, for obvious reasons.

Love,

Pieter.

Hi Pieter,

Thankyou for your response. I think it's important to appreciate how we operate here at Openhand. We're not saying to people "this is the absolute truth". We're not saying "you should do this or that". We're saying "this is our truth, our experience" and inviting others to explore their own truth in relation to that. Sometimes I know we don't always spell that out - thanks for reminding us.

I didn't say "the drugs are holding you back". I actually said that ingesting excitotoxins, including drugs, "lowers our vibration and pulls our consciousness into this very limiting (physical) plane."

You might see this as semantics, however I feel it is not. Our approach is to catalyse a response, inviting others to see themselves deeper. I noticed for example the way you interpreted my words... "the drugs are holding you back". Were I in your shoes, I would be looking very carefully at that because the words came from you not me!

Yes I know the journey is tough. Yes I know those around will resist. When I went through Transfiguration, once again, I found it very hard to relate to the world in words. I'd become the "Seer", pure presence. There was no "me" any more, no "Chris Bourne" as others had known him.

Those closest to me, unknown to me, warned the health service again and once more I was sectioned, for a short period, into a psychiatric hospital. The Christ Consciousness was with me yet again. Only this time, when the drugs were administered, I was encouraged by Benevolence to take them under my tongue and then spit them out later in the loo.

This I did, unlike the other inmates who then became practically comotose. It meant that I retained my high vibration and was able to take the hospital and doctors to a tribunal for unfair admittance and treatment. I was released within a week.

Thankfully, because I stood in my truth, that is all behind me now. I can articulate my mutli-dimensional experience which continues throughout my life. I feel I am being totally authentic and interestingly, I've found ways of sharing with my family which they can, at least to a degree, grasp. They accept me now as I am, even if they don't fully understand where I'm at.

I understand totally the predicament you find yourself in and I empathise deeply with you. I also understand that each person may have to continue to do certain things, like take medication, until they are ready to move forwards. Probably EVERYONE living in the matrix (in society) is ingesting some kind of excitoxin or other which is lowering their vibration. The invitation to all of us, is to become sensitive to that process, be honest with ourselves and manage it to the best of our ability within the circumstances we're given.

If we do this, I know in my heart there is a path for ALL of us into the higher paradigm, no matter what circumstances we may find ourselves in. I know I experienced exactly what I did in order to be able to say this to people from a place of truth (my truth).

Whilst I was in hospital, the words of a song were gifted to me by Benevolence. I'm given to offer them to you now... "you've gotta tie yourself to the mast my friend and the storm will end"...

With much love and blessings

Chris

Peiter wrote: "it's just that I feel that my past lives aren't that important to me at this stage, and that this life is more than enough for the time being."

I am wondering why you are interested in asking about them if they aren't important to you? I'm not intersted in my past lives at all unless they arise for me, in which case I have no choice but to take notice. I have no desire to remember that which I don't need to either. There is enough going on as it is . The only reason we remember is because there is something that we have 'brought with us' from the past that we are now ready to let go of or they contain information or memories that are related to fullfilling a particular purpose in our current incarnation.

To me it doesn't matter when/where or how they happened. Time is linear until we transcend it and details are simply details. The important thing for me is 'what is the experience showing me right now and how is it relevant to my current happenings'.

Trinity
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Interestingly, I don't have any negative experiences from my hospitalization. I would say it played a very active part in my spiritual evolution...

First of all, it's the drugs that made all the storm in my head just quiet enough and then I could become more aware. It is then when I started to do something constructive about my terrible state. Of course, it was very toxic for my body, but it gave me time to gradually become able to work with all the "atacks", which were trully horrible.

After my "almost succesive" suicide attempt, I chose to be hospitalized (here you have a choice, you sign the papers yourself, if you're still able to).

It is one of the most beautiful experiences in my life. I saw there broken people, some of them were not people anymore...But then one of them just raised her head during a meal, a zombie, and said to me: "You won't stay for long in here.."...You know, this kind of things..

And the doctors were very, very supportive and were trying to give me the strength to go on, to keep fighting, they released me much earlier then they should, just to prevent me from getting used to this kind of secure life and get stuck there... They wanted me to get up on my legs and find my way out.

It is there I was given a psychologist, I choose to call "a friend", whose words are relevant for me today, in my spiritual process, whose love and energy are still with me, I feel.

My psychiatrist always told me I just need to change the way I look at things, the perception is wrong. He told me that drugs are not the solution, it's temporary, to prevent me from hurting myself. That I have to find the way...

So from my perspective, it is not always bad, in my case I'm not sure I would make it without being held by them for a while, untill I can "walk without help".

Of course, there is a risk to get stuck, to get addicted, and I went through my cold turkey later. It was not easy.

But I do beleive that those who are looking for the truth won't be too distracted and misled by anything, they will always, no matter in what state, keep breaking through. At least that's what I feel happened to me...

Yulia

To answer Trinity's question:

I´m interested in it probably because I just feel a little envious yet at the same time, as always, having doubts about the existence of past lives...

So on the one hand I`m like (to be totally honest): "Yeah right", on the other hand I'm like: "Why don't I remember them?". Hence my reaction. .

I do agree with the fact that we carry the past inside us, all of us do. Only how it appears to one person would be different from the appearance to another. I feel like world history is 'written on my soul' while you seem to have clear memories. I think both expressions of universal consciousness can exist side by side .

In reaction to Chris:

I still think that my interpretation of your words isn't that strange or 'off'. When you say:
"lowers our vibration and pulls our consciousness into this very limiting (physical) plane",
I just read: "taking drugs, like medication, holds you back to be able to reach the unlimited metaphysical plane".

But it doesn't really matter, it would get to a discussion about interpretation that would be unending, so why would we go there? . For me,I just struggle with my medication at the moment. I lowered it a bit and I already feel change. The difference is that I used to panic, but I don't right now. So that's a good thing, I think.

I've been in the psychiatric world for a long time. I'm glad this all was 'kept' from you Chris. I just think to myself that I had to go through all that to be where I am now. It was my path, and yours was different.

By the way, if I would have stood in my truth, I could have gotten lots of money from the hospital I was in. I actually was clinically dead because of their mistakes, and that's not the only mistake they made. And when I saw my doctor after this (the being clinically dead by drowning thing) had happened he only said: "You scared us Pieter!", like it was my fault (I suffered from 'body shocks' because of medication).

In response to Yulia:

I think it's so good you feel that you will keep breaking through, no matter what! It's exactly how I feel. They can bring me down, but they can never touch my soul, which will forever fly with the wind.

To all who read this:

I often feel like the people in Michael Jackson's video clip of 'Earth Song'. It's such a wonderful video and such good expression of how I often feel.

Here's the link if you want to watch it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3vTBiOsSGY

Hugs,

Pieter.

Hi Pieter,

Yes, how right you are...

"They can bring me down, but they can never touch my soul, which will forever fly with the wind."

Beautiful!

Chris
PS - love the video by the way. Whatever we have done, Gaia will renew herself.

Here some more lyrics. I found them this afternoon and it made me cry instantly, because of the recognition etc.

"The Farthest Star"

The will to greatness clouds the mind
Consumes the senses, veils the signs
We each are meant to recognize.
Redeeming graces cast aside
Enduring notions, new found promise,
That the end will never come.

We live in times when all seems lost,
But time will come when we'll look back,
Upon ourselves and on our failings.

Embrace the void even closer still,
Erase your doubts as you surrender everything:

We possess the power,
If this should start to fall apart,
To mend divides,
To change the world,
To reach the farthest star.
If we should stay silent.
If fear should win our hearts,
Our light will have long diminished,
Before it reaches the farthest star.

Wide awake in a world that sleeps
Enduring thoughts, enduring scenes.
The knowledge of what is yet to come.
From a time when all seems lost,
From a dead man to a world.
Without restraint, unafraid and free.

We possess the power,
If this should start to fall apart,
To mend divides,
To change the world,
To reach the farthest star.
If we should stay silent.
If fear should win our hearts,
Our light will have long diminished,
Before it reaches the farthest star.

If we fall and break,
All the tears in the world cannot make
us whole
Again.

We possess the power,
If this should start to fall apart,
To mend divides,
To change the world,
To reach the farthest star.
If we should stay silent.
If fear should win our hearts,
Our light will have long diminished,
Before it reaches the farthest star.

Hi Pieter,

Just like to start by saluting you for the way you have come through a very challenging period in your life. Also I enjoy your lovely non-confrontational way of asking questions and stating your perspective.

Getting back to your original question on past lives, I thought you might be interested to know what happened to me.

I did not "remember" or have any kind of mental or dreamlike replay of a past life but rather a very strange set of circumstances arose in this life time where my normal interactions with people I was very close too went into some kind of out of control overdrive where something I did was blown out of all proportion and I was completely ostracised without any chance of making my perspective known or understood. Just to make sure I really "got it" the universe arranged for it to happen between me and close friends and another similar overblown reaction between me and a close family member. In both cases I had done something to try to benefit another and the action blew up in my face so to speak as it was interpreted as a malicious action, this was very strange, how someone who knows you very well can suddenly see you to be something you are not. It is indeed that very "impossible to understand how it could happen" or "off the scale proliferation of drama" that can be a real clue to the fact that karma is being played out in this lifetime, whether "memories" are activated for you or not, there will be other clues, maybe in what someone else says or mirrors to you.

This was to be my major teaching on karma, by that I mean the attachments to the trauma I had undergone in a previous lifetime that I was still carrying. It resulted in very strong suicidal feelings arising (which I now recognise as those I had in a previous lifetime). Because of the work I had done through Openhand and my understanding of the Five Gateways, I knew had already been transfigured (Gateway 3) and realised I was probably in the heart of processing Gateway 4,(interesting choice of words as karma is stored in the causal body which connects through the heart chakra) it was only this notion of understanding that something will shift and there will be a way out that enabled me to be with the overwhelming feelings without acting on them. The only kind of "extrasensory" thing that happened to me was a few times during and after the main, intense period of experience was I had the feeling of a noose round my neck which I concluded was the way I chose to deal with the situation in the previous lifetime.

At the time I didn't have enough understanding to move the energy through by using meditation and physical movement/ bodywork, but this proved an invaluable lesson in itself as my energy gradually "ground to a halt" as I was bathing in so much stagnation, i.e. I was feeling the energies but not releasing them and their heaviness was ever more weighing me down. Thankfully I eventually connected with Trinity who is a master at moving energy with vibrational massage, and it catalysed the cleansing of my energetic system.

I wouldn't say I have an "interest" in past lives but the result of my experiences is that I feel an understanding of how the purpose of this incarnation is to process the attachments which keep us tied to the physical plane. When this process is complete, we pass through Gateway 4 we are enlightened and no longer need to incarnate here. (I am not there yet, but more and more feel the truth of this).

With love on your journey,
Lesley x

Heyy Lesley,

Thank you for your words.

Although I truly feel the need to evolve, I didn't even look into the 5 gateways yet. I will soon do so, as it seems there is in that very much to learn for me, and I'm glad for that.

You say (among other things):

"I did not "remember" or have any kind of mental or dreamlike replay of a past life but rather a very strange set of circumstances arose in this life time where my normal interactions with people I was very close too went into some kind of out of control overdrive where something I did was blown out of all proportion and I was completely ostracised without any chance of making my perspective known or understood".

I'm so amazed that this is exactly what has happened to me last weekend, on friday. It's a perfect description, and I'd like to thank you for sharing because up until now, I couldn't place it and I felt very alone in this. It happens once in a while and I always end up feeling alone, not have been able to express myself properly, feeling misinterpreted and rejected, that's why it feels so good that you come with this now.

Thank you,

Sincerely,

Pieter,

I'm so glad the timing was so meaningful to you. Synchronicities like that help me see how the universe is conducting the whole orchestra that we are each a part of and when we get to read the music proficiently we start co-creating the melody in the moment.

It's so nice to meet other souls in the orchestra through the ether!

Thank you too.
Lesley x