Hi Redrooney,

Welcome to the forum - what a great question. I suspect you are asking it for many people.

The true self is beyond desire at all. It is totally complete and whole. It does not need to be joyful, happy or generally 'up' as you describe - these are all constructs of the body/mind and are conditions that are, whilst pleasurable, mere illusions just as the entire universe around us is an illusion. It is the condition of the false self that requires these things - in other words when we as spirit are identifying ourselves with the separated body/mind.

All of us together, as one life, created this illusion with one purpose - to act as a mirror for something which cannot be seen. We are the absolute, the infinite potential from which all experiences arise. We can only truly be experienced as the ABSENCE of experience. Paradoxically this non-experience can be tasted as the complete liberation and freedom we experience when we give up trying to experience anything at all.

It comes with complete inner surrender - letting go of attachment to ourselves as an identity that needs to be happy, joyful or loved. When we can truly surrender in this fashion, then the presence or absence of any particular thing can no longer dictate our state of beingness.

When we have reached this enlightened state, then we flow as one with universe back to increasing states of unity. We respond in the moment to the pull of higher love which guides our actions - we are beyond the needs, wants and desires of the separated ego (false self).

Paradoxically when we reach this state, we find that everything which then comes to us, even pain, is sublimely beautiful - then we can be completely in the experience but not dictated by it. I call this state 'walking down the blade edge of life'.

So the reason your experience of general 'upness' switches off is because you have an attachment to being up. If you let go of the need to be anything, then ultimately it will be replaced by 'awesome okayness' and complete liberation.

Sometimes we do indeed find that our desires are created by feeling and thinking positively about what we want to happen. However in my experience, what is really going on here is that the false self is aligning itself with the true self - the desire is arising from the inner recognition of what is about to happen anyway.

At some point however, this bubble will surely burst because it is still holding us in a lie that there is something we really need that we don't already possess inside.

So the key is to completely surrender all effort, desire and need and then to flow with the truth of the moment. This is the sure way to fulfilment in life.

Best wishes

Chris

Thanks for your reply.
Yes - attachment! I am definately searching for things outside myself.

I can remember, as a young child, just playing and laughing and loving everyone. Everything was exciting and I was attached to virtually nothing - well...maybe sweets could cause my little false self to freak out - but even that was short lived!

Why does it seem so difficult for so many to remember who we really are and to enjoy life like children? I seem to drift back into my false self a lot, even though I know the spiritual laws practically inside out.
Is meditation the ideal way to bring me into alignment with source and detach myself from desires and their outcomes?

best wishes
xxx

Hi redrooney, . A couple of points:

Firstly, a useful initial step is to try to move into the position of the observer of one's thoughts, feelings, and actions. This is easier with some of these things than others, and we will often get lost in the moment and lose our detachment. But every little helps, and this approach will allow us to get more perspective on things over time.

Secondly, when doing the above, try to let go of judgementalism. When we talk about a "curse" or suchlike, we start to beat ourselves up and get into a negative spiral. Things are the way they are now, we just need to learn from the past and not punish ourselves for it.

In the longer term, the "observer" can fade away, and then just perfect experience remains...

For me, I no longer wish to "Lend" strength to that I wish to be free from.

I believe that I came into the world without attachment of any sort. Attachment is a taught thing. We are taught attachment through ideas or society's rules. Is this a "bad" thing? Well no.

Everything has purpose. Attachment is for self-elvolution. It is for wisdom. To purposely learn the lesson of "detachment".

Truly, it is not that we "do not know", its that some "don't remember".

Much Love.

Well said Wings,

Interestingly when a baby is born, it knows no difference between itself and its mother and its surroundings. As you say it is taught these things as it gows.

It is from that moment that we begin to learn of our separation to all things and forget our connection. From separation comes internal identity and from that attachment to the separate conditions of our lives.

Chris

Welcome to the forum Redrooney

I have found that 'knowing' spiritual laws can be (at times) counter productive, when 'learning' to release ourselves from attachments. It's that childlike innocence that helps to propel us into the flow of our authentic selves, when we act according to what feels right at the core of our being.

Understanding the nature of reality can of course be helpful, however 'tis (in my view) important to refrain from becoming attached to the intellectual side of the story. It seems frequently we are so busy looking for what we perceive we should attain, rather than what is actually there. The key in my view is to do only that which you feel deeply pulled to do from the core of your being.

All ideas, laws and concepts are simply doorways through which to step into direct experience.

With Love
Trinity