I know it is a bit out of context, but mmm chemistry is chemistry hhhh

I never tried anything more intense than cigarettes and weed 0:), but it was enough for me to feel what any kind of intervention can cause to the body and the mind.

Trying to generate or induce spiritual experiences by some kind of external intervention, in this case drugs to me is just a form of control, trying to design and control the process instead of allowing it to unfold naturally, which IS challenging, and often I myself was like, why stretch it so much??!!! Why not just get it done in one big painful shot and that's it. But on my path, in my experience, I was shown so many times, how hard it is to integrate even tiny shifts in consciousness into the body and every day life, and I've come to realise that the body knows, and the universe knows and my soul knows what I can take, and I learned to feel love and gentleness of the slow progression.

Also, the warning, to me, is about initiations out of the body. If the body can't take the expansions - then there is no real progress. Spirituality is IN the body, in this plane, nowhere else. I know a couple of people who were allured by the energetic experiences and are stuck now somewhere in upper planes and just can't go down, can't get back into the body. They are now having really hard times and hard work to do...

Also, to me, it is important to look on the other side: trying to fix or suppress the 'spiritual' experiences (because everything is spiritual) with psychiatric or any other drugs, especially the painful ones.

I had a really wide and prolonged history with all kinds of psychiatric drugs. There was a period when I took ~12 pills a day. This is the way of our society to deal with what's different. To numb it all to make us fit and be 'normal'. And of course, I cooperated, because I was convinced I was sick and needed help. I was diagnosed as borderline disordered, all kinds of words like depression, anxiety disorder, suicidal something, self-injury... I had a really long list hhhhhh And I had no idea what it was really about.

Later on I needed to undergo years of tough rehab, detoxification and teaching my body and mind to deal with the states and arising impulses, after years of being numbed and neutralised and constantly sick, tired and suffering from endless side-effects. In other words, 'lost' years.

So I know that things can be really tough and it seems that only a magic pill can help sometimes, or some kind of drug to make the pain or some horrible state to go away, but there IS another way, even if we can't sit and hold.

For example, I had very intense impulses of self-harm and usually couldn't resist. It turned into an addiction at some point. Then I tried to fight it and was running to take an anti-anxiety pill and zombify myself for a day or two. But then I found a trick - putting my head into the cold water and it worked! And later, after beginning my spiritual path consciously, I was more and more able to deal with things and over years I am now able to experience any kind of horrid states, maybe uncentering a bit, maybe getting lost in the accompanying emotions, but I am not completely lost in it all and can handle.

In short, I believe that anything, any kind of mental 'disorder' or state can be dealt with, and people can be taken of medications over time, including weed, which many say is 'nothing', it is natural, but I believe that if I need some kind of fix on the outside, or use something to make it easier, it can be something natural too, like food or sport, then over time all these things will just have to go, when we are ready, of course, when we have a sufficient trust, surrender and ability to hold the experiences without being consumed by them.

I felt it is important to mention this side too.