I am pleased to see your article here Chris. In certain circles use of psychedelics seems common place... quite influential figures tout the benefits irresponsibly.

I became fascinated by drugs such as ayahausca containing the DMT compound after meeting quite a number of people in many different circumsntances who described their experiences after using these. To be honest what really stood out for me was that I was having the same experiences but WITHOUT the drugs. I have never taken these drugs (and never had any interest in taking them either), yet I recognised the experiences people talk about from my own natural ability to transcend human boundaries.

This is why it fascinates me, especially when I see the difference between people who experience this naturally and people who have to induce the state with drugs.

There was a key difference though. With the fast track drug approach, so much misinformation seems to fly around - jumping to all kinds of conclusions about reality or people being influenced by entities big time. People would take the drug once and then speak like some authority on the nature of reality. The only problem was that it seemed to miss some key foundational aspects. It is like going from A to Z and missing out most of the steps inbetween. We can't cheat spiritual evolution - so we always have to go back and pick up the missing pieces along the way. It's a lot harder that way too. Taking mind alterning drugs sometimes even retards evolution because of the delusion of having reached a place in the journey beyond where a person is 'naturally' at or the inability to integrate the intensity of reality beyond the veil.

To experience the same thing 'beyond the veil' whilst NOT taking drugs is very different. There seems to be a much more grounded integration and assimilation of the nature of reality. It's like you have reached a place in your journey of evolution where you are MEANT (or ready) to have those experiences. And therefore you'll have the foundation of experience to draw upon. Ironically it is usually those who are not efforting or desparate to have spiritual experience that will have the deepest - just by being themselves.

On another note:

I can really understand a tribal group who have experienced psychedelic plants as part of their culture for aeons may carry the responsibity to use it within their group. This is VERY different to being raised in a western tradition, full of western distortions, lacking the innate foundation to comprehend the process.

A big subject....

I did psychedelic drugs (mainly mushrooms and LSD) quite intensely and for quite some time. I never had negative experiences myself but many of my friends did. One killed himself, two never recovered psychologically. Many are still in the loop or very depressive.

While it should be very clear that drugs can only have you look out of the window, but never actually walk out the door, it is also a question how much you are willing to pay for that glance at a wider reality. The idea of spiritual progress though drugs is just a lie in my view. So yes, it might inspire you to walk a spiritual path, to then aquire these states in a natural way. But at what cost?

With me it did so seriously mess up my energy that I do belive that I am still cleaning up the mess now, more then 10 years later. I had several meetings with masters and clairvoyants in my journey who just looked at my energy when I walked through the door and stated "Jesus, what have you been doing? LSD?" I can't see energy like that myself but it became quite clear to me, that these substances really come with a strong "spiritual health warning" and the way they are used and glorified in the spiritual scence is nothing short of naive.

Taking drugs is really violence towards your own energy and being. There is an organic path that we are invited to walk. A path where chakras and energy open when they are ready to open, when the nervous system and brain are ready for the energy and when the personality is in a place to digest the change in perspective and identity. It is the smoothest and the fastest way I see.

In spiritual terms a shortcut might easily turn out as the longest distance between two points... There is no cheating, not by taking drugs, not by powerful guru-initiations, not by energy transmissions, dikshas or the like.

And why would you mistrust the natural flow anyway?

David

After reading the article I felt just wondering why would somebody want to shortcut his spiritual evolution? Is it not about the journey itself actually?

To me it doesn't make any sense to see a "movie" with just an opening and end Personally, even that I am boohooing sometimes when the times are somewhat challenging, but I wouldn't want to miss the travelling itself, all the wonderful things on my way, all the challenges and the empowerments and learnings, all the people I've met, all the experiences and self-discoveries Why? It is hard for me to understand what's the joy in trying to jump... and where exactly?...

It seems to me that people have some idea that spiritual evolution has some final stop, but in my view, there is always a place to grow, to keep going, evolving, individually, collectively and on the universal scale, so where are people 'hurrying'? Where do they think they are going to get? And if they knew, are they sure they would want to get there at all?

And what I see here is just another symptom of this general misconception what is there "beyond the veil", what is spirituality? People take DMT, they get to the 4th dimension, and then they "don't like it". What did they think they will find there? Some rosy pinky world where they can be in constant bliss?

So as I see it, a lot of confusion is going on around... So putting it in some "shortcutted' way, I would say that, in my view, spirituality is not somewhere there outside, some other 'fun world', it is actually inside.

So if you don't 'like' the way you are now, and can't accept and work with what you have now, then at least one side effect will occur as a result of any kind of shortcutting: it is getting to see more of what you have now, in a more deep and intense way, without having the tools to deal with it, without having 'the muscles to lift the weight'. And from this place two things can happen: 1) lifting it anyway, and then it is tougher, harder and much more unbearable, i.e. you're going to have to 'walk' it anyway, but without proper preparation; 2) 'cracking', in all kinds of ways.

So I would say that the first thing to ask is what are these people exactly after when they are taking these things?

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Hi Chris,

It's always good to hear your perspective on things. I basically agree with you that Hallucinogenics can be useful if done under the proper circumstances. I have a lot of experience with them from years past. Most were positive and helpful but some not and I do feel that there was some residual energies to deal with that made day to day life a little more difficult to deal with. As a teenager I lived in a difficult environment. There was economic poverty, violence, drugs, crime, and a broken home with little to no family support. Between 14 and 16 I found myself in some very challenging situations. Regular visceral threats such as physical violence, lack of food, or fear of not having shelter. Many people who experience these kinds of things end up in the prison system or dead or just so damaged that they are never able to transcend the experiences. I came across LSD and Mushrooms at that young age and began having tremendous experiences that I believe helped guide me out of and above the negative environments that were consuming so many in my circumstance. It opened my mind in mystical ways and began my "conscious" spiritual journey. I truly believe had I never came across LSD that I too would've become part of the prison system. I opened my Psychic faculty and synchronicity became a daily reality. These experiences helped me navigate over the next handful of years through very tuff times without falling into the pitfalls of poverty and the dead ends of the street.
Now, the difficult part of it was that it made me very,very sensitive to the energies and my empathic ability was often overwhelming. It took me years to learn how to come to terms with it and I'm still learning how to deal with my sensitivities. I came in to this bodily journey with some unusual sensitivities to start with(saw beings as a child, had out-of body experience at 6, had visions of christ,etc) but I think that all of the LSD and Mushrooms definitely made ordinary life a little more challenging. I don't regret any of it but would not suggest it for most people. I've seen many people open doors they weren't ready for. Anyway, just wanted to share my story sense we were on the subject.

Peace & Love,
Brian

It's like it creates a loop within the energy field, a cycle of repetition that keeps a part of the soul trapped It's like running before you can crawl in a spiritual sense... and not understanding why the metaphoric limbs don't function properly.

It's also very different (even though on the surface it has many similarities) to when someone who has transcended as a natural part of the evolutionary process, integrating and embodying every step of the journey.

If you miss stuff out, you always have to go back, to resolve what was missed out. The problem is, transcending so quickly often generates a reluctance to do that... I mean people don't tend to like back tracking.

Hello I would just like to share my perspectives on this topic.

For starters I feel the word "drug" it to broad, and to charged a word to use in this context. All drug really means is any chemical that effects mind or body. This could apply to bananas, and heroin. Though most people relate it in a negative way to synthetic chemical compounds.

I will just share my path, in hopes that it will add to this discussion in a positive way. I first became interested in power plants the year after graduation of high school. Consciousness, spirituality, and exploring my human experience became a large part of my life. I took a unique approach to the topic though. Living in the information age there was vasts amounts of information about the traditional use of power plants, and I heavily delved into my research of shamanism. After I felt I had fully prepared myself, and done my homework (Terrence Mckenna being a large influence) I got my hands on some magic mushrooms. My first experience was beautiful beyond words. I felt the depth of the teaching ability of this plant. For the three years after I ceremoniously grew, and consumed the plant with the intention of exploring myself, and growing. I considered myself well suited to the plant, and consumed it in high doses 7 or 8 times a year (also exploring Ayahuasca).

I found these profound experienced had positively changed me, and in my travels, and exploration of spiritual groups I discovered I had sensitivity's, and ability's. I admit I had a streak of arrogance too. Well that chapter of my life came to a crescendo of a end two years ago. I won't go into depth but I had a "experience" that rocked my world. I connected to a high frequency being (not on any power plant) and than was guided (or directed) to consume the largest amount of magic mushrooms I had ever taken. That was my first "bad trip" I had to quit my job, and my nervous system took months to fully recover. In the end though my life unfolded in a new, unexpected, and positive way.

That ended my time with power plants. Since than I have discovered that that path while having things to teach, had fulfilled it's specific purpose in my life. Only since than have I really began to activate my ability's (healing, and much more).

Would I be where I am now if I had never consumed them, I would say no, but I have no way of knowing. I honor that chapter in my life, and thank it for what I learned from it. The shear beauty of some of those spaces were amazing. I realize I am somewhat of an exception to the norm, and realized that many people can, and are abusing these plants. There literally are no short cuts, just unique paths we all walk. Each as valid as the next. Yes there are dangers regarding these plants (though I would like to make a point that they do not limit you to the 4th density, they can take you literally anywhere(just like meditation)). My advice is trust your gut, and go down the path your heart takes you. Do you need them for evolution NO, can the help you YES.

With the knowing that EVERYTHING has a positive, and negative quality; Explore... ♥♥♥

Hi Chris;

In May of last year, I went to the peruvian amazon and did 7 ayahuasca ceremonies hoping for spiritual growth and for help with a severe addiction to alcohol. At that time I owned two houses and two cars and I was married with three young children.

Shortly after I got back from Peru I went into a complete downward spiral. First I lost my drivers licence for driving drunk (something I never used to do), then I spent a week in a hell hole of a jail. I took a leave of absence from work to try and deal with the resulting depression.

after a while with no income we had to sell the big house we lived in and my alcohol addiction continued to get worse with dry periods followed by intense binges. My wife had seen enough and divorced me earlier this year and to top it all off, in August I was fired from my well paying job of 31 years.

I`m not sure how much all this has to do with the ayahuasca, but I can clearly remember in one of the ceremonies my skull opening up and several downloads or implants going into my exposed brain. Right now I feel very foolish knowing that on some level I chose to experience this hell and I really dont know where to turn next.

Currently I am off the booze and attending several AA meetings a week and practicing meditation daily. I am also taking RNA drops. This is not a drug, but rather a supplement. Have you heard of it? I would love to hear what you have to say about these drops

Thank you,
John

Hi Chris I saw your article on the DMT health warnings on another website and wanted to share an experience I had using DMT.

At the time I had been a practicing Tibetan Buddhist for about 10 years, though I wouldn't consider myself an accopmlished meditator. I was however sensitive to energy and am trained in Reiki.

During my DMT experience, I traveled quickly past the tunnel and geometrics and came to a place where I saw the flower of life grid encompassing my field of vision. I thought to myself 'the grid is the base of all creation but for some reason this grid feels like a cage'. I then saw the Hindu goddess, Kali, take a sharp weapon and shatter the flower of life grid. In its place appeared black space, a completely black, empty, void. This blackness began filling my 'body' and chakras. At first I was frightened and tried to fight it with visualizing white light because in my mind, black was 'bad' and white was 'good'. Then I realized that I needed to stop fighting and labeling black as 'bad'. I became one with the black, empty, void.

Then I became aware that I was in a brightly lit room, and there were white figures hovering around me. It was as if I was on a table and a light was shining down on me. The figures began to develop distinctive almond shaped eyes and I realized they were the gray ET's that were associated with abductions. I never saw them distinctly, but it seemed they were wearing all white and all I could see were their outlines and the large almond-shaped eyes. I saw that they were removing an artificial object from my abdomen. It was shaped like a vesica pisces, (kind of an eye shaped object) that had an orange/blue orifice in the middle where the iris would be in an eye). This center became a mouth with teeth that was part of some kind of living appendage. As I saw them working to remove this object, I told them that this object was not mine, did not belong to me, and that I never wanted it. I told them that I was returning it to them and that it belonged to them, not me. That was the end of my DMT experience.

Have you heard of anyone having similar experiences? Thanks

Thanks Chris. I have only shared that experience with 2 other people, and neither one really had any input or guidance. So do you think I am free of that implant? I haven't done DMT since, but I am curious to follow up to that experience and see what else arises.

Now am am fascinated Chris. I am very interested in implants (or energy modules as I like to call them), I work with removing them and synthesizing them in my sessions (among other things).

Oh yes I have them too, In fact I am working on getting one cleared I have had most of my life right now. How cool!

Entheogens have a role as "gateways of perception". They show us what is beyond "normal" consciousness. In my experiences taking magic mushrooms, many times, many years ago, when taken in a suitable setting, with an appropriate attitude (that of spiritual seeker), they kick started me on my spiritual journey. Through them I was taught many things, most significantly (in the context of this discussion here) that true spiritual progress requires a natural drug-free approach of working on the self through meditation and self checking. It was made clear to me that lasting enlightenment cannot be reached through simply taking any form of medicine. Drugs distort our experience, and damage our psychic auras, but they did play a valuable role for me: that of letting me peek through the "doors of perception."

So, I agree fully that true spiritual progress can only be made through being "clean" and working towards ever-increasing purity of the self (through facing and releasing, bit by bit, what Eckart Tolle refers to as "the pain body"). The first steps, for me, were becoming vegetarian (then vegan), and learning to meditate - both of these I started during my entheogenic phase, and it was only then that I started getting answers to my questions. As I said, these answers soon told me to drop the drugs.

However, I do not think it is helpful at all when people who have had no experience of entheogens dismiss them, or rail against them. For me, entheogens played a vital and very helpful role in my spiritual journey. I am very grateful for them, and I am sure many others can benefit in a similar way. The important message is not to avoid them at all costs, but to be prepared when/if you take them: the right setting and company, the right attitude (spiritual seeker, not entertainment seeker). And, be aware that there will be a comedown period, when the absence, in everyday life, of the elevated consciousness that was temporarily induced by the drug, can hit you hard. "Normal" consciousness can seem very flat, dull, and empty, after entheogenic experiences.

I have learned that the only way to bring the elevated consciousness permanently into your everyday life is through spiritual effort, without drugs. But the drug experiences taught me that!

We all have different paths, different ways of getting there. But, the basis for lasting enlightenment is purity, not medicine. We get there through intense meditation, not through intense medicine. This requires a lot of time and effort. There is no quick fix.

It is possible to run the idea a negative force may be at play here, but that is all I can honestly ever determine, it is a possibility but that is all. The raw data suggests if there is evil its got an uphill battle. Ive never experienced it and so it remains a possibility but that is all. As the sacred vines presented themselves to me when they determined appropriate. It was never with the intent of being a short-cut rarther when the time was right to utilise the available gifts. just the next step.
It seems premature to make a determination on their role based on what mite be a bad outcome. Especially if it doesnt come from direct experience. If that is the case a good outcome may result in the unimaginable. An acceptable risk for me.