What a powerful reply Open. At least to me. My first reaction was that I started crying such emotion this brings up. I don't know why and it's not important now. There are a couple of things that touched me deeply: first of all if one could not identify with the pain when undergoing the crucifixion like Jesus did. That's a big one for me considering many lives I've had in which I had do deal with torture (e.g. as a jew in Nazi Germany). I have also been dealing with astral abductions by the greys and learned how to surrender in the experience instead of resisting (when they performed 'something' on me). As a young kid I took ice cold baths in the winter and ran barely naked in the snow to see how long I could cope. Later I never rationally understood why I did that. I just somehow felt it was important to not be affected by the cold. I occasionally do little physical pain tests with myself to see what my internal reaction I get (like pinching your skin with your nails for a long time. Do it it's fun!) :yahoo:

Secondly you speak about distancing oneself from the density. I have started doing this many years ago to escape...........the thoughts about pain and torture and the overall feeling of being totally worthless. And right now that's a big test in my life
because the density of this physical reality seems almost to drag me into the gutter. It's like life is asking: can you bring your consciousness into this, see it fully and be totally okay in it? And: so what if you lose everything?

You speak about breatharians and the ability to bring down energy from the fourth dimension. I never heard of the term. I only know I occasionally (and I believe 'M' has also experienced this) slow down my breath (almost automatically) to the point that I hardly have to breathe at all. Than I stop with that because something in me is afraid my physical body will die as a result of that.

I take the sauna test at heart because that's the kind of test I really dig! What a challenge to find the place within where you do no longer care about any of these extremes. Right now in my life I'm swung/alternating between the 'realness' of 3D and the ultimate reality of pure consciousness. From one extreme to the other. I guess it will go on until I have brought light into every particle of my physical reality. I feel weary sometimes because it's relentless and never seems to stop. But I know somewhere along the path I have chosen this and there's simply no way back. Who knows where it'll take me....

Thanks so much for your insight and encouragement. From my heart to yours!